When two legends of dog behavior sit down to share their wisdom, you listen. In this special mid-season bonus episode, I'm joined by Dr. Patricia McConnell and Dr. Karen London, two pioneers whose books, research, and teaching have shaped modern dog training for decades.

What makes someone successful in the challenging field of professional dog training? As we discover through candid stories and genuine reflection, it's not about perfection but rather creativity, adaptability, and a healthy dose of humor. From Karen's emergency "tissue treat" that became an unexpected jackpot reward to Patricia's memorable response when her demo dog peed on a client's pants: "And you too can have a dog who's as well-trained as mine!"

Beyond the laughs, we explore the profound reality of working with aggression cases. Patricia shares her experience with nightmares featuring dogs' teeth that counterintuitively helped desensitize her to fear, while Karen reflects on sitting in on severe cases during her training. Their insights reveal the complex psychological aspects of this work rarely discussed in training circles, and highlight what every dog trainer needs to know.

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