LAUNCH Podcast with Anthony Delaney

In this episode of the Future Church podcast, Anthony Delaney speaks with Damilola Mckindie about the journey of faith, the importance of discipleship, and the role of Christians in engaging with culture and politics. Damilola shares insights from his background, his experiences in university, and the significance of internships in shaping his professional life. The conversation explores the challenges of sharing faith in a secular world, the importance of law and free speech, and how Christians can collaborate to address societal issues. Damilola emphasizes the need for boldness in faith and the necessity of preparing new believers for the realities of following Jesus.

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00:00 Introduction and Background

In this episode of the Future Church podcast, Anthony Delaney interviews Chip Ingram, founder of Living on the Edge Ministries. They discuss Chip's journey to faith, the purpose of the church, and the importance of discipleship. Chip emphasizes the need for churches to be supernatural communities that focus on spiritual growth and meeting community needs. He also outlines the characteristics of a high impact church, which include regularly bringing lost people to Christ, maturing found people, and addressing community needs. The conversation highlights the significance of Romans 12 in understanding discipleship and the role of church leaders.

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00:00 Introduction to Chip Ingram and His Ministry

In this episode of the Future Church Podcast, Anthony Delaney discusses the launch of the High Impact Church and the importance of discipleship through the 'Knowing, Growing, Going' framework. He emphasizes the significance of personal testimonies in sharing faith and the transformative power of Jesus in one's life. The conversation highlights the need for hope in a world filled with despair and encourages listeners to actively engage in their faith journey.

00:00 Introduction to the Future Church Podcast

In this episode of the FutureChurch podcast, Anthony Delaney discusses the discipleship pathways being implemented at Ivy Church, focusing on the 'Knowing, Growing, Going' framework. He emphasizes the importance of building a relationship with God, growing in love for Jesus, and applying biblical knowledge in practical ways. The conversation also highlights the significance of spiritual practices such as Bible reading and prayer, and the need to equip others for discipleship.

00:00 Introduction to the FutureChurch Podcast

In this episode, Anthony Delaney discusses the mission of his church, Ivy, focusing on community outreach and discipleship. He shares insights from the Festival Manchester initiative, the impact of COVID-19 on community engagement, and the importance of developing a discipleship framework called 'Knowing, Growing, Going.' Delaney emphasizes the need for practical steps in discipleship, the role of technology, and the significance of scripture in guiding individuals on their faith journey.

Takeaways

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00:00 Introduction to Future Church Podcast

In this episode of the FutureChurch podcast, Anthony Delaney engages with Mattias Demaerel, who shares his transformative journey in disciple making. They discuss the inception of a disciple making movement, the structure and impact of the Recruits program, and the importance of relationships in discipleship. Mattias emphasizes the need for a multiplication mindset over a growth mindset, highlighting the significance of finding 'persons of peace' for effective evangelism. The conversation also touches on the Kingdom of God, the role of signs and wonders, and the relational nature of discipleship.

00:00 Introduction to Mattias Demaerel and Recruits

In this episode Gareth shares his journey in church leadership, discussing his early experiences, challenges, and the evolution of his approach to leading a church how understanding our call to release God’s purpose in people has led to him creating environments for personal growth for all as disciples - shifting from large gatherings to more intimate, accountable groups where we coach and ask questions more than give answers.

Church Leadership Journeys and Challenges

Gareth shared his early passion for leading a church, starting at age 13, and how he became a senior leader at 22. He also talked about the challenges and opportunities that came with leading a church, including a significant shift in vision around 2006-2007, which led to building a new church on a business park. Gareth then discusses his journey of discovery, exploring how to unlock the potential of a church in a society that seemed to have turned its back on it. This led to the creation of a multi-site model with several locations. Gareth then further reflected on the potential that still remained to be tapped into. 

Gareth's Leadership Journey and Bible College

Anthony and Gareth discussed Gareth's transition into a senior leadership position and his experiences with his father and Bible college. Gareth noted that the practical application of his learning was crucial, and that the apprenticeship model was integral to his development. Gareth also expressed his appreciation for working with his father, highlighting the positive aspects of their collaboration. 

Leadership and Change Management Strategies

Gareth discussed his approach to leadership, emphasizing the importance of understanding different perspectives and approaches. He shared his experience of working with his father and father-in-law, highlighting the need to respect and understand different generations and approaches. Gareth also touched on the challenges of leading a church through significant changes, such as selling a building and moving to a warehouse. He stressed the importance of having a clear vision and understanding the reasons behind these changes. Anthony sought Gareth's advice on how to lead people through such changes, and Gareth emphasized the need for a strong vision and understanding of the reasons behind the changes. 

Gareth's Vision for Church Growth

Gareth shared his personal experience of a moment of clarity that led him to envision a change in the church he was leading. He emphasized the importance of honoring the past while tilting towards the future and the next generation. He also discussed the transition of the church's name from its original name to "Everyday Champions" in 2006, and subsequent expansions to different locations. Anthony agreed with Gareth's points, referencing a quote from Alan Hirsch about honoring generations. 

Decentralizing Church Model for Growth

Anthony and Gareth discussed the evolution of their church's model from a traditional, geographically-based structure to a more decentralized, technology-driven approach. They acknowledged the importance of proximity of leaders in maintaining the initial model, but also recognized the need for change as they sought to reach a wider audience. Gareth shared their experience of opening a mobile coffee space in Greenwich, which allowed them to listen to and engage with people who weren't attending church. This shift in approach led to a better understanding of the questions people were asking, which differed from those addressed in the traditional model. The conversation ended with Gareth suggesting that their new model was akin to building a factory for the future, while still maintaining the existing structure. 

Purpose, Discipleship, and Human Nature

Gareth and Anthony discussed the concept of purpose and its relation to the church and individual beliefs. Gareth emphasized the importance of understanding the individual's purpose rather than fitting them into a precast mold. He also highlighted the role of discipleship in this process, suggesting that people have the answers within them but need an environment to allow these answers to emerge. Anthony raised a theological question about the fallen nature of humanity and the potential for self-deception. Gareth agreed, noting that there are competing seeds within individuals, and the goal is to create an environment where the seed of vision can grow. The conversation concluded with Gareth acknowledging that this transition is ongoing and has been a significant shift in his perspective. 

Shift to Intimate Conversations and Content

Gareth discussed the shift in their model from focusing on large crowds to smaller, more intimate groups. He emphasized the importance of one-to-one conversations in unlocking potential, citing Jesus' example. Gareth also explained their new approach, where content is digitally driven and can be accessed at any time, with groups meeting in various locations. He stressed the need for environments where people can't hide and emphasized the role of leaders in equipping the saints for works of service. Anthony agreed with Gareth's points, noting the importance of personal relationships and the exposure of hidden issues in larger crowds. 

Accountability and Coaching in Church Model

Gareth and Anthony discussed the importance of accountability and evaluation in their church model, contrasting it with the traditional "come and see" approach. They emphasized the need for individuals to set goals and seek change, with Gareth suggesting a simple ABC framework for awareness, barrier, and change. Anthony agreed, noting the need for more engaging questions in their discussions. They also discussed the role of coaching in their approach, with Gareth highlighting the importance of drawing out what's inside people rather than just pouring in information. Anthony expressed interest in Gareth's coaching methods and invited him to join a future podcast and launch event. Gareth agreed and encouraged listeners to consider the size of their vision and the potential for change. 

Legacy, Contribution, and God's Presence

Gareth challenged the participants to consider their legacy and how they can contribute positively to the world in the next 500 years. He emphasized the importance of going beyond personal interests and contributing to the greater good. Gareth also encouraged the participants to connect with him on social media platforms and to seek a deeper understanding of God. He ended the conversation with a prayer, asking for forgiveness and guidance in expanding their awareness of God's presence and purpose in their lives.

Church Leadership – local, national and global

Anthony and Ness discuss the challenges and opportunities of leading a church and a network of churches. Ness expressed her gratitude for being able to lead a local church and a network, as it allows her to connect with the complexities of church leadership and pass on her experiences.

They also touched on the importance of humility, love, and grace in navigating pastoral issues within the next generation in church.

Church Leadership Models and Adaptation

Anthony and Ness discuss the future of church leadership and models. They agreed that the church should not professionalise leadership but should instead train and invest in leadership gifts. They also discussed the importance of understanding the context and culture to which they are called.

Ness mentioned that Pioneer Church does not have a one-size-fits-all model, but rather adapts to the specific setting and context of each church or church plant. They also touched on the success of a bilingual model at Lighthouse Church, Anglesey. Anthony shared his positive experience visiting Lighthouse Church with his wife Zoe. 

Embracing Spiritual Gifts in Ministry

They discuss the importance of embracing the spiritual gifts in their ministry. Ness emphasised the need for a high view of the spiritual gifts, proper training, and boundaries to ensure their effective use. She also highlighted the importance of creating space for these gifts and modeling good practice. They also stressed the significance of holding a high view of Scripture and honoring God's word and expressed a growing conviction about the centrality of the Word of God in their ministry. 

Bible Reading as Discipleship Tool

Ness shared a story about a 22-year-old electrician who became a Christian after reading the King James version of the Bible. This experience inspired Ness to give away more Bibles and to encourage people to read the Bible with others. To facilitate this, they placed a QR code sticker in the front of the Bibles, directing people to a link for meeting up with someone to read the Bible together.

Preparing for the Upcoming Launch Event

Anthony and Ness discussed the upcoming LAUNCH event in June, with Ness expressing her excitement to be part of it. Anthony revealed the list of speakers, including Chip Ingram, Aaron Pierce and many others, for what they believe will be an important of gathering in preparing the church for the future.

Ness shared her belief that they are in a John the Baptist era, calling for the church to prepare and get ready for the coming of the King. Anthony agreed, stating that this is a year of expansion and not a time to hold back. 

Spiritual Guidance for Younger Generations

Anthony and Ness discussed the need for spiritual guidance and mentorship for the younger generation, particularly Gen. Z. Ness emphasized the importance of creating community and providing practical skills, such as cooking, to help young adults navigate life's challenges. They also discussed the potential of younger leaders stepping up into leadership roles and the need for churches to serve and support their communities.

Ness prayed for the group, asking for trust in God's plans and guidance, and for the power of the Holy Spirit to align them with God's work. 

Upcoming Launch Event and Key Leaders

Go to Launchcatalyst.org now to book in to the gathering Anthony and Ness discussed, which will focus on the theme of the "High Impact Church".

LAUNCH will be held on the 9th and 10th of June in Wigan and the 12th to 13th of June in Gold Hill Baptist, Buckinghamshire.

Paul Lloyd with his wife Vicky leads Victory Outreach Church in Salford and they travel globally as part of that incredible ministry.

He had a background in combat sports but after an injury in his teens he fell into depression which took him into the world of Eastend and Essex gangs, heroin addiction and crime. He talks with ex-cop Anthony about why people get addicted and how at 27 years of age he was set free by Jesus Christ after in his hour of need a prizefighter friend told him the good news.

Their time together is profoundly hopeful as Paul describes the hopelessness of atheism and scientism to change lives for good, and why “the church must not just bring a message of lifestyle change, but life exchange!” It just gets better after that bit - so cut out an hour for this fantastic, humorous episode and help us share the hope by liking, reviewing, sharing and subscribing.

Find out more at https://www.vomanchester.org.uk