Law and Legitimacy

"This was a dark day—make no mistake about it—for the first amendment and for freedom of speech in the United States." . Good morning and welcome back to Law and Legitimacy. Norm traveled to DC in advance of his client's—Owen Shroyer—sentencing yesterday in Washington, D.C. Following the sentencing judge's order for 60 days in jail, Norm uses the LAL platform to give the ins and outs of the sentencing and sets the table for the forthcoming appeal. . Daily livestreams beginning at 8:00 am EST on: › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › X: https://twitter.com/LawPodDaily . Subscribe and turn on notifications! . Support Law and Legitimacy: . - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - X: @LawPodDaily, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

Law and Legitimacy with Norm Pattis and Michael Boyer for Tuesday, September 12, 2023. . Daily livestreams beginning at 8:00 am EST on: › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › X: https://twitter.com/LawPodDaily . Subscribe and turn on notifications! . Support Law and Legitimacy: . - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - X: @LawPodDaily, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

We're loving the crew. The #LALiens. The ones in the stream chat before we go live letting us know we've a job to do. Do it we shall. Welcome to Law and Legitimacy: legal analysis as raw as the poppy fields in southwestern Asia. Hosted by Norm Pattis and Michael Boyer. . Today: . › Liberty Safe, the company that manufacturers objects in which purchasers place items of significant personal value under lock and key, has decided it does not like running a successful business any longer. Hey, we all make our own choices. . › New York City has a Department of Homeless Services, affectionately referred to as the Department of Homelessness. Despite that totally legitimate arbitrage of public resources into the hands of unelected bureaucrats for allocation to important areas of homelessness—such as voter registration—Mayor Eric Adams is not confident New York City will survive the migrant crisis that sees 10,000 new migrants descend into the city every calendar month. . › The Brewers Association has 'warned' its constituent breweries of the looming government shutdown in the face of a Congressional impasse on the budget. Mike has guidance for breweries that vow not to be helpless. . Join us. . Daily livestreams beginning at 8:00 am EST on: › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › X: https://twitter.com/LawPodDaily . Subscribe and turn on notifications! . Support Law and Legitimacy: . - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - X: @LawPodDaily, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

Good morning and welcome to Law and Legitimacy, perhaps the clearest, most salient independent voice in legal analysis and institutional legitimacy available in the western world. Thank you for being here. We are grateful. . Norm Pattis and Michael Boyer discuss: . › Terrorism and what is known in the legal field as the "trial tax." To draw comparison to the sentencing in the Proud Boys trial, Norm and Mike question how a DC jury can acquit a defendant convicted in a UN jurisdiction for terrorism for acts connected to none other than Osama Bin Laden. . › Constitutional Law 101: A Map of the Constitution. Installment #002. . › Senator Sheldon Whitehead wrote a letter to Justice Samuel Alito accusing the Supreme Court Justice of 'improper opinin.' Shut up, Sheldon. . Join us. . Daily livestreams beginning at 8:00 am EST on: › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › X: https://twitter.com/LawPodDaily . Subscribe and turn on notifications! . Support Law and Legitimacy: . - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - X: @LawPodDaily, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

Good Morning and Happy Tuesday! We trust that the Labor Day holiday treated you well. Law and Legitimacy stayed true with Norm and Mike going live at the normal time. If you need a beat, take one and catch up on yesterday's discussion. . We have big topics today: . › A new Georgia law, S.B. 92, creates an 8-member 'Prosecuting Attorneys Oversight Commission,' which will being accepting formal complaints on October 1, 2023. Fulton County District Attorney is among the first within the crosshairs, ostensibly due to the prosecution of leading Republican candidate for President, Donald J. Trump, and 18 co-defendants. Is this formation of such a body constitutional? . › Elon Musk posted several times yesterday indicating an impetus and willingness to sue the Anti-Defamation League (the "ADL"), which he asserts is responsible for X's cratering advertising revenues. What legal bases might Elon have? . › Reformer and modern legend, Edward Jay Blum, has filed two (2) new lawsuits seeking to strike at the heart of affirmative action policies in the private sector. Mr. Blum is the attorney responsible for the successful outcomes at the Supreme Court this term, having representing both plaintiffs in their respective cases against Harvard and the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill for discriminatory admissions practices. . Join us. . Daily livestreams beginning at 8:00 am EST on: › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › X: https://twitter.com/LawPodDaily . Subscribe and turn on notifications! . Support Law and Legitimacy: . - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - X: @LawPodDaily, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

Happy Labor Day! . Today: . › College Football, Conference Realignment, Deion Sanders and Signature Win Stories. . › Update from the Proud Boys Sentencing. . › Trump, 14th Amendment, Disqualification, and Dershowitz. . › Ball & Legitimacy Fantasy Football Draft Scheduling! . Join us. . Daily livestreams beginning at 8:00 am EST on: › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › X: https://twitter.com/LawPodDaily . Subscribe and turn on notifications! . Support Law and Legitimacy: . - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - X: @LawPodDaily, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

Good Morning one and all! Welcome to Law and Legitimacy, the daily law podcast hosted by Norm Pattis and Michael Boyer. You've summited another week and you're here with us. We thank you for that. . Ahead of the Labor Day weekend: . › Joseph Biggs was sentenced to 17 years for his conviction of seditious conspiracy related to his involvement in the events of January 6, 2021, at the U.S. Capitol. Zach Rehl, a co-defendant and fellow Proud Boy also convicted of seditious conspiracy, was sentenced to 15 years for his part. Norm debriefs and discusses. . › Vivek Ramaswamy: "If you can't smoke an addictive cigarette until you're 18, you shouldn't be able to use an addictive social media platform by the age of 15 or 16 either. Ban it." We'll have fun with this one. . › Fulton County Judge Scott McAfee has directed that all proceedings in the State's case against President Donald J. Trump will be televised. This is good. But why not also in federal court? . Join us. . Daily livestreams beginning at 8:00 am EST on: › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › X: https://twitter.com/LawPodDaily . Subscribe and turn on notifications! . Support Law and Legitimacy: . - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - X: @LawPodDaily, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

Good Morning and a Happy Thursday to you all. Welcome to Law and Legitimacy, the daily law podcast hosted by Norm Pattis and Michael Boyer that traces the contours of America's institutions as they intersect with the declining sense of the common good from the American citizenry. . Today: › We pick up the Bailey v. Iles decision from the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals, which held that the content of an individual's speech on social media was erroneously used as a basis for his subsequent arrest. . › We also pick up on the Supreme Court of the State of New York's ruling denying defendants' motion to dismiss a religious discrimination lawsuit in Lax et al. v. CUNY et al. . › United Auto Workers ("UAW") is threatening to strike if a deal is not reached between it and America's Big Three: General Motors, Ford, and Stellantis, by the September 14th deadline. The major concern? Electric vehicles and the current administration's plans to force the American automotive sector into unknown labor territory in its push to 'decarbonize'. . Join us. . Daily livestreams beginning at 8:00 am EST on: › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › X: https://twitter.com/LawPodDaily . Subscribe and turn on notifications! . Support Law and Legitimacy: . - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - X: @LawPodDaily, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

Good Morning and welcome again to Law and Legitimacy. It is Hump Day. Not that that really means much when one is due to be in a D.C. federal courthouse under certain and obvious headwinds. But for now you're here with us and we're here with you. We are grateful for and thank you for that. . Today: . › Norm updates from yesterday's developments in the Proud Boys sentencing proceedings. We're calling it, "the Waco approach to justice." . › The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit in Bailey v. Iles appears promising for those who believe in things as quaint as the first and fourteenth amendments. . › Jane Coleman writes for Legal Insurrection regarding a religious discrimination lawsuit launched against CUNY by 5 of the school's Orthodox Jewish professors which has survived the schools motion to dismiss and will thus proceed forward. . Join us. . Daily livestreams beginning at 8:00 am EST on: › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › X: https://twitter.com/LawPodDaily . Subscribe and turn on notifications! . Support Law and Legitimacy: . - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - X: @LawPodDaily, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

Good Morning and welcome to Law and Legitimacy! We begin this week on a Tuesday, as Norm has arrived in D.C. to carry on with federal prosecutors once again. . Today: . › A June 2022 National Archives response to a Freedom of Information Act request by the Southeastern Legal Foundation reveals that then Vice President Biden may have transacted through pseudonymous email accounts on more than 5,000 emails. . › Norm's trip to D.C. is to represent two (2) Proud Boys defendants in the sentencing proceedings behind their respective convictions on charges stemming from the events of January 6, 2023. Norm updates. . › "Smart Cities," as they have been affectionately titled, appear to be emerging in real time. In Solano County, California, a group a notable Silicon Valley tech investors has secured all the available land around Travis Air Force Base with the intent of creating a new city from scratch. . Join us. . Daily livestreams beginning at 8:00 am EST on: › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › X: https://twitter.com/LawPodDaily . Subscribe and turn on notifications! . Support Law and Legitimacy: . - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - X: @LawPodDaily, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!