Law and Legitimacy

It is Wednesday, July 12th, 2023. NATO curved Ukraine. Blackrock's CEO has Bitcoin in his mouth. And you're here with us on Law and Legitimacy. Welcome back to the initiated #LALiens among you. Welcome to the first-timers. Norm Pattis and Michael Boyer convene every weekday morning at 8:00am eastern to volley the essence of law and its intersection with our common conceptions of right in an increasingly stressed and frenetic western society. That is, what is law without a foundational sense of legitimacy? . Today's Agenda: . › Edward Lang v. the United States of America has been petitioned to the Supreme Court of the United States. Mike referenced Norm's involvement in an additional case with an additional defendant in cases arising out of the events of January 6, 2021, on the solo stream. On petition for certiorari, Norm joins Steve Metcalf in asking the Court to overturn an appellate court's breathtaking misapplication of a federal criminal statute against one Edward Lang. This is decidedly a case with major implications on the protections afforded every American citizen by and through the first amendment to the United States Constitution. Will the Court grant cert? . › Tucker on Twitter Ep. 9 debuted yesterday evening. Tucker Carlson's roughly 2 and-a-half hour interview with Andrew Tate is, as Mike describes, a meditation on the human essence. If one only makes it halfway through, one is still blessed with unvarnished analysis of due process and systems of justice, the "matrix" and the marriage between MSM and global influences, masculine essence and programmed depression, the male tendency to bond through suffering, tiers of government corruption, extreme ownership and accountability for self, racism and the division of lower classes along cosmetic lines, western malaise and unbridled immigration, and more. As of this stream, the interview has 37 million views in roughly 14 hours. Epic. . › The Prime Minister of the Netherlands, Mark Rutte, resigned after the Dutch government failed to reach an agreement that would have tightened immigration policy in a country that has seen a dramatic rise in migrant arrivals over the last several years. Is the Netherlands the canary in the metaphorical coal mine for the whole of the West? . Join us. . For the rest of the year, creators will receive 100 percent of the revenue from the purchase of monthly subscription badges, which Rumble recently launched for the price of $5 per month. Please consider purchasing a subscription badge to LAL and be assured that LAL will receive every penny of that subscription through the end of the year. Your consideration and patronage is most sincerely appreciated! . Daily livestreams beginning at 8:00 am EST on: › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › Twitter: https://twitter.com/LawPodDaily . Subscribe and turn on notifications! . Support Law and Legitimacy: . - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - Twitter: @LawPodDaily, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

Good Morning, #LALiens! Thank you for joining, giving this stream a thumbs-up, subscribing to Law and Legitimacy. Yesterday was a lot of fun. Mike felt the love on his first solo LAL flight. Norm rejoins Mike in the cockpit this morning and the two navigate the turbulence of a western culture in crisis. . On the agenda: . › Norm updates on the conditions of confinement for J6 detainees in DC detention facilities. . › Mark Rutte, the former Netherlands Prime Minister, has resigned, after the Dutch government failed to reach an agreement that would have tightened immigration policy in a country that has seen a dramatic rise in migrant arrivals over the last several years. Is the Netherlands the canary in the metaphorical coal mine for the whole of the West? . › The Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals in a split 2-1 decision sided with North Carolina State University in a lawsuit brought forth by a former tenured doctoral professor in the institution's education department which claimed violations of his first and fourteenth amendment rights and unlawful retaliation. The opinion cites Professor Stephen Porter's lack of collegiality as the lawful basis for his termination. What is going on in higher education? . Join us. . For the rest of the year, creators will receive 100 percent of the revenue from the purchase of monthly subscription badges, which Rumble recently launched for the price of $5 per month. Please consider purchasing a subscription badge to LAL and be assured that LAL will receive every penny of that subscription through the end of the year. Your consideration and patronage is most sincerely appreciated! . Daily livestreams beginning at 8:00 am EST on: › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › Twitter: https://twitter.com/PattisPodcast . Subscribe and turn on notifications! . Support Law and Legitimacy: . - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - Twitter: @PattisPodcast, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

Good Morning and Happy Monday #LALiens! Law and Legitimacy is back on its normal schedule this week. Streams begin at 8:00am eastern for the foreseeable future. Again, a word of gratitude for those of you who adjusted your schedules and joined us over the lunch hour last week. Mike's tan also sends its regards. . Speaking of Mike, he is flying solo today. Norm is deep in the heart of trial prep and while LAL is his first love, every self-respecting attorney knows the rules: the client is the main event. . Let's see what happens! Mike offers a couple of items to listeners and viewers before indulging a brief #AMA: . › C.S. Lewis's "The Screwtape Letters" is something that Mike comes back to time and time again. This morning, Chapter 28 is resonating loudly. What does Uncle Screwtape say about keeping the human patient 'safe'? And what insight does that excerpt offer us under current social conditions? . › North Carolina's citizens affirmatively voted to implement voter identification in 2018. The NAACP sued to bar enforcement, citing discriminatory animus by the legislature and North Carolina's sordid history with racism. With many of the procedural hurdles for the law now cleared, the case appears ready to resume later this month and the North Carolina Board of Elections is preparing for voter identification implementation in all statewide municipal elections later this year. What is it that Mike always says about North Carolina? . Join us. . For the rest of the year, creators will receive 100 percent of the revenue from the purchase of monthly subscription badges, which Rumble recently launched for the price of $5 per month. Please consider purchasing a subscription badge to LAL and be assured that LAL will receive every penny of that subscription through the end of the year. Your consideration and patronage is most sincerely appreciated! . Daily livestreams beginning at 8:00 am EST on: › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › Twitter: https://twitter.com/PattisPodcast . Subscribe and turn on notifications! . Support Law and Legitimacy: . - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - Twitter: @PattisPodcast, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

Good afternoon and Happy Friday, #LALiens! Norm and Mike are back today for the final 12:30pm livestream of the week and for the foreseeable future. Law and Legitimacy will return to the normal 8:00 am eastern time slot beginning Monday, July 10, 2023. We extend our gratitude for all of you who have adjusted your schedules to be with us this week. We take nothing for granted. . If you are not following LAL on Twitter (@PattisPodcast), you should! We just published the first installments in a series of LAL Hot Takes—short-form bursts of written content giving what we hope to be unique perspectives on topical events at the intersection of law and legitimacy. Check it out. . On today's stream: . › The New York Times Reports: L. Lin Wood, Lawyer Who Tried to Overturn Trump's 2020 Loss, Gives Up License — Norm and Mike review LAL's past coverage of high profile attorneys taking advantage of the populist sentiment regarding the illegitimacy of the 2020 presidential election. What does this revelation say about the broader narrative assigned to the 2020 election? . › JUDGE TERRY A. DOUGHTY has issued a preliminary injunction in State of Missouri v. Biden — the case alleges that the Biden administration by and through the various named defendants engaged in public pressure campaigns, private meetings, and other forms of communication regarding what the Biden administration defines as "disinformation," "misinformation," and "malinformation" to collude with and coerce social media platforms to disfavor certain speakers, viewpoints, and content across those same social media platforms. . Join us. . For the rest of the year, creators will receive 100 percent of the revenue from the purchase of monthly subscription badges, which Rumble recently launched for the price of $5 per month. Please consider purchasing a subscription badge to LAL and be assured that LAL will receive every penny of that subscription through the end of the year. Your consideration and patronage is most sincerely appreciated! . Daily livestreams beginning at 8:00 am EST on: › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › Twitter: https://twitter.com/PattisPodcast . Subscribe and turn on notifications! . Support Law and Legitimacy: . - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - Twitter: @PattisPodcast, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

Welcome back to the best half-hour in the world of law podcasts. We hope you had a blast over the Fourth of July. Thank you to those #LALiens that joined us yesterday for our holiday-themed stream! If you missed it, go back and watch. . Today, Norm and Mike convene for some weightier topics: . › Tyler Pager writes for the Washington Post: "Biden faces renewed pressure to embrace Supreme Court overhaul" — Of course he does. It was a campaign promise, after all. But what is the realistic outlook for the future of the Supreme Court's construction? And haven't we been here before? . › Bloomberg reports: "ChatGPT Creator OpenAI Sued for Theft of Private Data in 'AI Arms Race'" and Natasha Tiku writes for the Washington Post: "How elite schools like Stanford became fixated on the AI apocalypse" — After a week in which Elon Musk came under fire for the significant slowdown and seemingly arbitrary rate limitations placed on Twitter users, the question is being re-asked, "what is going on with artificial intelligence?" Norm and Mike discuss the softness of higher ed's inquiries into A.I.'s threats to mankind while also threading the theme of whether the humans in charge of sector innovation are really to blame for the unmoored development of A.I. over the last several years. . Join us. . For the rest of the year, creators will receive 100 percent of the revenue from the purchase of monthly subscription badges, which Rumble recently launched for the price of $5 per month. Please consider purchasing a subscription badge to LAL and be assured that LAL will receive every penny of that subscription through the end of the year. Your consideration and patronage is most sincerely appreciated! . Daily livestreams beginning at 8:00 am EST on: › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › Twitter: https://twitter.com/PattisPodcast . Subscribe and turn on notifications! . Support Law and Legitimacy: . - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - Twitter: @PattisPodcast, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

Norm and Mike wish you all a Happy Fourth of July! As promised at the end of yesterday's stream, today's half-hour segment of Law and Legitimacy will focus on enduring principles of our American republic, and a few minutes for the live chat to throw questions for real-time answer. As always, we thank you for being with us. . Join us. . For the rest of the year, creators will receive 100 percent of the revenue from the purchase of monthly subscription badges, which Rumble recently launched for the price of $5 per month. Please consider purchasing a subscription badge to LAL and be assured that LAL will receive every penny of that subscription through the end of the year. Your consideration and patronage is most sincerely appreciated! . Daily livestreams beginning at 8:00 am EST on: › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › Twitter: https://twitter.com/PattisPodcast . Subscribe and turn on notifications! . Support Law and Legitimacy: . - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - Twitter: @PattisPodcast, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

Norm and Mike will be streaming live this week, beginning at 12:30pm eastern on Monday (7/3) and 12:00pm eastern for the balance of the week! . Mike is in a remote location and Norm is in the office. Same great stream, same great content. We will return to normal one week from today. . Join us. . For the rest of the year, creators will receive 100 percent of the revenue from the purchase of monthly subscription badges, which Rumble recently launched for the price of $5 per month. Please consider purchasing a subscription badge to LAL and be assured that LAL will receive every penny of that subscription through the end of the year. Your consideration and patronage is most sincerely appreciated! . Daily livestreams beginning at 8:00 am EST on: › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › Twitter: https://twitter.com/PattisPodcast . Subscribe and turn on notifications! . Support Law and Legitimacy: . - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - Twitter: @PattisPodcast, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

Good Morning #LALiens and Happy Friday! What a week it has been. Let's finish strong. If this is your first time with Law and Legitimacy, Welcome! We appreciate very much your time and attention. You could be anywhere in the world, but you're here with us. All we ask? Share Law and Legitimacy with one person when we earn it. . The Supreme Court of the United States. What's there to say? The end of the October 2022 Term is taking a drive through the old neighborhood. It didn't used to be like this, don't you know? In all seriousness, June 29th's published opinions are historic. Norm and Mike convene to discuss: . › Students for Fair Admissions, Inc. v. President and Fellows of Harvard College/Students for Fair Admissions, Inc. v. University of North Carolina, et al. — Chief Justice John Roberts delivered the 6-3 majority opinion of the Court, which struck down the institutions' respective race-based admissions procedures as unconstitutional violations of equal protection. The reactions on the internet—especially those from supposed lawyers—have been dreadful (dredful?). . › Groff v. DeJoy, while overshadowed in large measure by the landmark equal protection decision in Harvard, delivered a major win for Title VII and the protection of the individual from discrimination based on one's religion. Norm and Mike set the stage for this opinion a little while back. . › #AMA! Norm and Mike devote a few more minutes to accommodate a Q&A session with the #LALiens in the live chat. Send your questions! . Join us. . For the rest of the year, creators will receive 100 percent of the revenue from the purchase of monthly subscription badges, which Rumble recently launched for the price of $5 per month. Please consider purchasing a subscription badge to LAL and be assured that LAL will receive every penny of that subscription through the end of the year. Your consideration and patronage is most sincerely appreciated! . Daily livestreams beginning at 8:00 am EST on: › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › Twitter: https://twitter.com/PattisPodcast . Subscribe and turn on notifications! . Support Law and Legitimacy: . - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - Twitter: @PattisPodcast, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

Good morning and Happy Thursday, #LALiens! Thank you for being with us. If you are new to Law and Legitimacy, greet us in the chat and enjoy the warm company. All we ask? Share the stream with one person. . Today, Norm and Mike tackle: . › North Carolina State Attorney General Josh Stein is the named defendant in Planned Parenthood v. Stein, the lawsuit brought to overturn North Carolina's new law banning abortion after 12 weeks. Stein is also running for Governor of North Carolina in the 2024 election. His recent public announcement as to his decision not to defend the duly enacted law passed by the North Carolina legislature presents an important question about the duties of the office of the State Attorney General, Stein's loyalties to the profession and obligations to his client, and whether his political ambitions have reached an inflection point in the simmering potential for a conflict of interest between the two roles. . › As first reported by Sports Illustrated, the NCAA released a memo yesterday advising member institutions through a series of FAQ's of member obligations under the NIL rules. Of particular note is the NCAA's clear position that state law is inferior to NCAA policy. Norm and Mike discuss. . › The question presented to the Supreme Court of the United States in Harper v. Moore was whether a state's judicial branch may nullify federal elections regulations through judicially created rules of its own. SCOTUS says 'nope.' Norm and Mike discuss. . Join us. . For the rest of the year, creators will receive 100 percent of the revenue from the purchase of monthly subscription badges, which Rumble recently launched for the price of $5 per month. Please consider purchasing a subscription badge to LAL and be assured that LAL will receive every penny of that subscription through the end of the year. Your consideration and patronage is most sincerely appreciated! . Daily livestreams beginning at 8:00 am EST on: › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › Twitter: https://twitter.com/PattisPodcast . Subscribe and turn on notifications! . Support Law and Legitimacy: . - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - Twitter: @PattisPodcast, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

Yo, #LALiens, guess what day it is? . HUMP DAY! Thank you for joining us for another delectable half-hour of sautéed Saint Augustine, Law and Legitimacy. We'd like to give a special shoutout to the OG's, BTL, Carta, FreedomLover, Luttrelll, and the gang. You make the endurance race this is a true joy. . Today, Norm and Mike analyze: . › The SCOTUS decision in Counterman v. Colorado — How did the Court reconcile the True Threats exception to the first amendment's free speech guarantee? . › The First Amendment in the Workplace — Norm shares some dark humor through a real story as it developed within his law office this week. . › More on North Carolina's State Attorney General, Josh Stein, and the case of Planned Parenthood v. Stein, and intervening defendants, Phil Berger and Tim Moore. . › Bud Light continues to crash. Mike offers some insight from his experience with the world of beer. . Join us. . For the rest of the year, creators will receive 100 percent of the revenue from the purchase of monthly subscription badges, which Rumble recently launched for the price of $5 per month. Please consider purchasing a subscription badge to LAL and be assured that LAL will receive every penny of that subscription through the end of the year. Your consideration and patronage is most sincerely appreciated! . Daily livestreams beginning at 8:00 am EST on: › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › Twitter: https://twitter.com/PattisPodcast . Subscribe and turn on notifications! . Support Law and Legitimacy: . - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - Twitter: @PattisPodcast, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!