Law and Legitimacy

It is Day 62 at the Hotel California aka Gilligan's Island aka United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., the trial in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys face charges of seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021. Weeks ago, Norm predicted that he'd be lucky to be home in time for Easter. Just on the other side of Palm Sunday, how close will his prediction be? Today, Norm and Mike are fresh off of a rare Sunday livestream. If you were deprived of the nearly two hours, do yourself the favor and play that video back. This morning, the two discuss: › Jury Nullification — Anons on Twitter hate it, but Norm seems to think there is a reason to believe the right of jurists to return verdicts contrary to evidence and/or established legal standards should be more popular. We look at the case of Douglass Mackey aka "Ricky Vaughn", who was just convicted under the Conspiracy Against Rights federal statute for conspiring to deprive people online of their rights to vote in the 2020 presidential election. Using memes. You read that correctly. › Norm expects the first and most pressing legal issue attending to the Trump legal defense team in New York to be the potential of a judicially issued gag order. Especially with a Trump press conference tentatively scheduled for this week, how will this likely play out? Join us. For the rest of the year, creators will receive 100 percent of the revenue from the purchase of monthly subscription badges, which Rumble recently launched for the price of $5 per month. Please consider purchasing a subscription badge to LAL and be assured that LAL will receive every penny of that subscription through the end of the year. Your consideration and patronage is most sincerely appreciated! Daily livestreams beginning at 7:45am EST on: . › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › Twitter: https://twitter.com/PattisPodcast Subscribe and turn on notifications! Support Law and Legitimacy: - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - Twitter: @PattisPodcast, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

Current events abound. Lots of them. Norm and Mike convene late on this beautiful Sunday morning in early Spring to discuss. Join us. For the rest of the year, creators will receive 100 percent of the revenue from the purchase of monthly subscription badges, which Rumble recently launched for the price of $5 per month. Please consider purchasing a subscription badge to LAL and be assured that LAL will receive every penny of that subscription through the end of the year. Your consideration and patronage is most sincerely appreciated! Daily livestreams beginning at 7:45am EST on: . › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › Twitter: https://twitter.com/PattisPodcast Subscribe and turn on notifications! Support Law and Legitimacy: - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - Twitter: @PattisPodcast, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

It is Day 61 at the Hotel California aka Gilligan's Island aka United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., the trial in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys stand accused of federal criminal seditious conspiracy charges in connection with the events of January 6, 2021. How did Immoderate Norm's apology to opposing counsel go yesterday? Come hang. Norm and Mike are powerless to avoid the media vacuum that is 45th President of the United States Donald J. Trump. Late Thursday, it was reported that the Manhattan Grand Jury assembled by District Attorney Alvin Bragg voted to indict President Trump on charges related to President Trump's alleged falsification of business records. Norm and Mike discuss: › What is the nature of a garden variety charge of "falsifying business records"? › What aggravating factor or factors contribute to an escalation of such a charge into a felony and thus eligible for extradition from a foreign state into the state of New York? › Will the Manhattan issue a Gag Order against Trump? Will Trump challenge venue?

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It is Day 60 here at the Hotel California, where you may check out but you most certainly can never leave. The trial in the United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys stand accused of seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021, continues apace. Norm shares a tense moment from yesterday's witness examination. On the slate for today: › Elon Musk is urging a pause on the development of A.I., joining in an open letter published by the Future of Life Institute, citing "profound risks to society and humanity" › 3 children and 3 adults were tragically slain in Monday's shooting at a Nashville, Tennessee Christian school by a 28 year-old natural born female reported to have identified as a male at the time of the slayings › A redacted letter reportedly penned by the former Human Resources Director for the Connecticut Public Defenders Office has been published, which outlines and sheds light on the basis for the independent scrutiny and investigation into Chief Public Defender TaShun Bowden-Lewis's apparently tyrannical reign Join us. For the rest of the year, creators will receive 100 percent of the revenue from the purchase of monthly subscription badges, which Rumble recently launched for the price of $5 per month. Please consider purchasing a subscription badge to LAL and be assured that LAL will receive every penny of that subscription through the end of the year. Your consideration and patronage is most sincerely appreciated! Daily livestreams beginning at 7:45am EST on: . › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › Twitter: https://twitter.com/PattisPodcast Subscribe and turn on notifications! Support Law and Legitimacy: - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - Twitter: @PattisPodcast, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

It is Day 59 in at the Hotel California aka Gilligan's Island aka United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys are on trial prosecuted with charges of seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021. At the end of yesterday's stream, Norm received notice from the court that the jury would not convene again until Thursday. Norm updates accordingly.

Norm is a frequent listener of Lex Fridman's podcast and thus listened over the weekend to Lex's episode with Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI. Of course, OpenAI is the parent company that has released GPT-4 and ChatGPT, the phenomenon that has taken American culture by storm in early 2023.

Long-time listeners of LAL know that Norm and Mike are both preoccupied with the impending influence of artificial intelligence on American society and humanity writ large. Having been a bit disappointed by the substance of Lex's podcast with Sam, Norm and Mike undertake to analyze likely potential impact of and existential questions posed by these early, clumsy iterations of A.I. What can these systems do? Is humanity on the brink of a technological revolution reminiscent of the industrial revolution? How does this affect the existential purpose of man?

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It is Day 58 in the Hotel California aka Gilligan's Island aka United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., the trial in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys stand accused of seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021. Norm provides #LALiens with a brief update and outlook. Today, Norm and Mike bring into focus several items that are not as visible in the mainstream news cycle: › Editing the Past — Publisher HarperCollins has announced that it will be editing its Agatha Christie collection to make words less offensive . . . › Chaos in CT Public Defenders Officer — Norm has a unique connection to Connecticut, and will share insight on the resignations of several Commissioners from the Public Defenders' Oversight Board in the wake of Chief Public Defender TaShun Bowden-Lewis's campaign of complete demoralization › Central Bank Digital Currency and AI — Provided time allots, Norm and Mike discuss the impact of state-led legislation for or against the creation/authorization of what are known as CBDC's in contrast to more commonly used and accepted coins, such as Bitcoin. Join us. Daily livestreams beginning at 7:45am EST on: . › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › Twitter: https://twitter.com/PattisPodcast Subscribe and turn on notifications! Support Law and Legitimacy: - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - Twitter: @PattisPodcast, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

It is Day 56 in The Hotel California aka Gilligan's Island aka the trial in United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., in which five (5) members of Proud Boys are being prosecuted on charges of seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021. The court held an emergency hearing yesterday after it was made aware by the Department of Justice that a CHS (federal confidential informant) had been in contact with defendants, defendants' counsel, and defendants' families as recently as January 2023. Norm updates on what the court plans to do with the trial moving forward. Things are tense. Today, Norm and Mike examine the case of Ethan Crumbley, the minor defendant who plead guilty to charges of first degree murder in connection with the Oxford High School shooting in November 2021. In particular, the duo are intrigued with the evolution of the case as it impacts Ethan's parents, James and Jennifer, who have been charged with involuntary manslaughter by a Michigan district court. Under what circumstances should the parents of a minor be held legally responsible for the acts committed by the minor child? Join us. Daily livestreams beginning at 7:45am EST on: . › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › Twitter: https://twitter.com/PattisPodcast Subscribe and turn on notifications! Support Law and Legitimacy: - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - Twitter: @PattisPodcast, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

It is Day 55 on Gilligan's Island, the term Norm affectionately uses to refer to the seeming endless trial in United States v. Joseph Biggs, et al., in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys are being prosecuted with charges of seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021. The trial made headlines yesterday as the Justice Department informed the court and the defense attorneys that an FBI confidential informant and planned defense witness has been in contact with at least one (1) of the defendants, the defense counsel, and even the defendants' families as recently as January of 2023. Wild stuff. . Today on the stream, Norm and Mike ask loyal #LALiens to come armed with their questions for a LIVE Q&A/#AMA sesh. . Norm and Mike will warm up with questions for each other to answer. Full disclosure: neither has shared his question with the other. . Let's have some fun! Join us. . Daily livestreams beginning at 7:45am EST on: . › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › Twitter: https://twitter.com/PattisPodcast . Subscribe and turn on notifications! . Support Law and Legitimacy: . - Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ - Twitter: @PattisPodcast, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ - Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. - Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!

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It is Day 53 in the trial of United States v. Joseph Biggs et al., in which five (5) members of the Proud Boys are being prosecuted with charges of seditious conspiracy in connection with the events of January 6, 2021. The prosecution rested yesterday, paving the way for the defense to begin presentations of its cases. Having reserved his opening statements for after the prosecution's case, combat veteran and Purple Heart earner, Joe Biggs, by and through his counsel gave opening statements to the jury. You might know that counsel by the name Norm Pattis. Norm and Mike keep pace with the week: › Governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis, broke his much criticized silence on the news of New York District Attorney Alvin Bragg's apparent plan to indict former President Donald Trump on charges related to campaign finance crimes. What did we learn? › The New York Times Published a Story on Saturday about the Sandy Hook Victims and Families Attempts to Collect on the More than 1.4B in Damages Assessed by the Connecticut Court — What is Going on? Join us. Daily livestreams beginning at 7:45am EST on: › Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/LawandLegitimacy › Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@lawandlegitimacy › Twitter: https://twitter.com/PattisPodcast Subscribe and turn on notifications! Support Law and Legitimacy: . Locals: https://lawandlegitimacy.locals.com/ Twitter: @PattisPodcast, @PattisNorm, and @MichaelBoyer_ Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Audible, Spotify, or wherever you receive podcasts and rate LAL 5 stars. Subscribe here on our Rumble and Youtube channels, give us a Rumble, and join our active community of free-thinkers, contrarians, and the unafraid on Locals!