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  • Exploring Animal Law: Opportunities and Challenges

    In this Law Practice Today podcast episode, the host discusses careers in animal law with professor and author Yolanda Eisenstein, who explains that modern animal law is largely animal protection law and has expanded significantly through increased legal education, clinics, and new legislation such as pet trusts. Eisenstein describes her path into the field, her teaching experience at SMU and the University of New Mexico, and how animal law spans companion animals, wildlife, farmed animals, federal and local practice, and even international work. She notes that companion animals generally receive the greatest legal protection and emphasizes that practitioners can integrate animal issues into many legal specialties. Eisenstein previews her updated second edition of Careers in Animal Law, advising prospective students to assess whether they truly want to be lawyers and can handle topics like cruelty and compassion fatigue, and predicts the field will keep growing amid biodiversity loss, climate change, and illegal wildlife trafficking.  


    00:00 Wildlife Trafficking Stakes
    00:28 Podcast Intro and Disclaimer
    01:07 Why Animal Law Careers
    01:53 Origins and Expansion
    04:37 Teaching and Practice Paths
    06:01 Species and Legal Protections
    08:15 Career Options and Locations
    09:15 Staying Current in the Field
    10:23 Book Advice and Self Fit
    12:55 Future of Animal Law
    13:54 Where to Find Yolanda
    14:36 Closing Remarks

    16 min
  • Empower Your Legal Mind: Traits and Tactics for Lawyers

    On the Law Practice Today podcast, host Terrell sits down with psychologists Larry and D'Arcy, authors of Thin Skinned, to discuss research on how lawyers differ from the general public and how those differences affect both practice and personal life. Larry describes decades of data collection—first via a nationwide Myers-Briggs study of 3,000+ lawyers and later through 30 years using the Caliper Profile, now totaling nearly 10,000 lawyer assessments—showing seven atypical trait outliers, including high skepticism and notably low resilience and empathy. They explain that some traits are present before law school, while skepticism, resilience, and empathy are largely learned and can shift with time in law-office environments. The episode highlights practical, research-backed ways to build resilience, including reducing cognitive distortions, increasing positive emotions, and strengthening relationships, plus leadership strategies for creating resilience-friendly firm cultures.

    00:00 Lawyers Get Thin Skinned
    00:20 Podcast Intro Disclaimer
    00:58 Meet the Authors
    01:44 Larry's Path to Psychology
    02:28 D'Arcy Joins the Project
    04:15 30 Years of Lawyer Data
    06:36 Seven Traits That Stand Out
    09:29 Why Lawyers Differ
    10:30 Skepticism Lowers Resilience
    18:19 Nature, Nurture, and Selection
    19:56 Four Buckets of Solutions
    20:47 Bucket One Fix Negative Thinking
    24:38 Bucket Two Build Positive Emotions
    30:01 Bucket Three Relationships Matter
    34:17 Where to Learn More
    35:05 Final Thanks and Wrap Up

    33 min
  • AI Tools for Smarter Law Firms

    In this Law Practice Today podcast episode, Greg Siskind discusses an ABA book he co-wrote with Jason Susser and Josh Waddell, focused on practical ways lawyers can adopt generative AI in their firms, including how to prioritize projects, find “low-hanging fruit,” decide what to DIY versus hire out, and avoid ethical or operational trouble. Siskind draws parallels to the early days of law firm websites, recounting building one of the first lawyer websites in 1994 and the skepticism and compliance questions that followed. He describes his firm’s earlier AI work starting in 2015 with no-code expert systems and a later pivot in 2022 after an early look at OpenAI through Casetext’s CoCounsel, leading to an immigration-focused generative AI research prototype. The conversation highlights strong use cases like summarization, translation, inbox workflows, marketing tasks, and prompt “recipes,” emphasizing prompts as effective delegation.

    00:00 Why Invest in AI
    00:31 Podcast Intro and Disclaimer
    01:09 Meet Greg Siskind
    01:52 Writing a Practical AI Book
    03:44 Lessons From 1994 Websites
    07:06 Early Web Marketing Advantage
    08:50 Law Firm AI Experiments 2015
    11:11 First Look at Generative AI
    13:55 Practical Use Cases and Prompts
    16:09 Prompting Is Delegation
    17:16 Where to Find Greg
    17:48 Final Thanks and Outro

    19 min
  • First Half of 2026 Highlights: Law Firm Strategy and Operations

    This special roundup episode of the Law Practice Today podcast brings together three conversations from the first half of 2026 focused on helping law firms build stronger, more resilient, and better-run practices.

    First, Stephanie Everett joins Terrell A. Turner in "Building a Healthy and Profitable Law Firm.” She explains why law firm leaders need to understand their numbers, create systems that allow the business to operate without depending on the owner at every moment, and revisit strategy regularly through quarterly planning, annual reviews, and longer-term vision setting.

    Next, Shawn Holahan discusses "Disaster Planning for Law Firms.” She emphasizes that professional and ethical responsibilities do not stop during an emergency. From natural disasters and cyber incidents to technology failures and employee disruptions, firms need a clear plan for maintaining operations and communicating with clients when something goes wrong.

    Finally, Alexander Paykin joins Terrell for "Picking the Right Legal Tech Tools.” He encourages law firms to look beyond polished demos and technology hype by evaluating tools against their actual workflows, practice-specific needs, security requirements, and expected return on investment. The goal is not simply to adopt more technology, but to choose tools that genuinely save time, improve operations, and support the firm.

    Together, these conversations highlight three important parts of running a stronger law firm: building a sustainable business, preparing for disruption, and making smarter operational and technology decisions.

    Listen to the Full Conversations:

    • Building a Healthy and Profitable Law Firm — Stephanie Everett
    • Disaster Planning for Law Firms — Shawn Holahan
    • Picking the Right Legal Tech Tools — Alexander Paykin

    Episode Chapters
    00:00 Special Episode Preview
    00:46 Podcast Intro & Disclaimer
    01:22 Building a More Resilient Law Firm
    02:20 Stephanie Everett: Building a Healthy and Profitable Practice
    03:24 Numbers, Systems & Strategy
    05:53 Shawn Holahan: Why Disaster Planning Matters
    07:07 Ethics and Professional Responsibilities During Disasters
    09:07 Building a Reliable Client Communication Plan
    10:23 Alexander Paykin: Cutting Through Legal Tech Hype
    11:54 How to Stress-Test AI & Technology Tools
    13:27 Evaluating the Real ROI of Automation
    14:19 Wrap-Up & Full Episode Links

    16 min
  • First Half of 2026 Highlights: Marketing & Business Development

    This special roundup episode of the Law Practice Today podcast revisits three conversations from the first half of 2026 focused on helping lawyers strengthen their visibility, relationships, and professional brand.

    First, Jason Hennessey joins Terrell A. Turner for “Mastering Law Firm SEO in the Era of AI,” exploring how AI-driven search is reshaping SEO for law firms, why traditional authority signals still matter, and how brand reputation and sentiment are becoming increasingly important as search behavior evolves.

    Next, Deb Feder shares a practical approach to business development in “Rethinking Business Development: Small Actions, Stronger Relationships.” She explains how lawyers can make networking and relationship-building more manageable by dedicating just a few minutes each day to simple actions, thoughtful follow-up, and staying consistently connected with the people in their network.

    Finally, Marianne Talbot brings a different perspective to professional branding in “Embracing the Punk Rock Principle in Law.” Her approach encourages lawyers to embrace authenticity, experiment with small acts that challenge the expected professional mold, and let go of some of the pressure to appear perfect—creating more room for individuality, energy, and enjoyment in their careers.

    Listen to the full conversations:

    • Mastering Law Firm SEO in the Era of AI — Jason Hennessey
    • Rethinking Business Development: Small Actions, Stronger Relationships — Deb Feder
    • Embracing the Punk Rock Principle in Law — Marianne Talbot



    Episode Chapters
    00:00 Special Roundup Preview
    01:07 Podcast Intro & Disclaimer
    01:43 Jason Hennessey: How AI Is Changing Search and SEO
    02:32 Authority Signals, Links & Brand Sentiment
    04:47 Quick SEO Strategies for Law Firms
    05:26 Deb Feder: The Five-Minute Business Development Habit
    07:52 Simple Daily Networking Actions
    09:08 Marianne Talbot: The Punk Rock Branding Mindset
    11:07 Letting Go of Perfection to Stand Out
    12:42 How Small Acts of Rebellion Build Energy
    13:52 Wrap-Up & Full Episode Links

    16 min
  • How to Write and Publish a Book with the ABA (and Why It Matters)

    This episode of the Law Practice Today podcast features Terrell A. Turner, CPA's interview with Carol Greenwald, chair of the Law Practice Division Publication Board, about what it really takes to write and publish a book with the ABA. Greenwald shares her background transitioning from academia to law firm consulting focused on communication, and explains that lawyers are trained in law but not always in clear communication with clients and teams. She discusses why people write books (reputation and expertise), how the division selects topics across business, finance, management, marketing, and technology, and why “evergreen” subjects differ from fast-changing topics like AI. Greenwald outlines appropriate and inappropriate uses of AI in writing, the challenges of completing a nonfiction book on deadline, and how to pitch a book idea to the Pub Board via a questionnaire process.

    00:00 Writing Sounds Like You
    00:34 Podcast Intro Disclaimer
    01:13 Why Write With ABA
    01:53 Carol Greenwald Background
    04:27 Lawyer Communication Gaps
    06:06 How People Remember
    07:51 Why Books Build Credibility
    09:06 Evergreen Versus AI Topics
    09:30 Choosing ABA Book Topics
    11:51 Clients Getting Tougher
    14:04 AI And Copyright Limits
    14:34 Using AI The Right Way
    17:29 What Makes Books Valuable
    20:30 Writing For Different Learners
    22:11 Guiding Readers With Breadcrumbs
    23:37 Publishing Goals And Deadlines
    25:23 Finishing A Book Is Hard
    28:32 How To Pitch The Pub Board
    29:31 Wrap Up And Thanks

    31 min
  • Mastering AI-Driven SEO for Law Firms

    On the Law Practice Today podcast, Terrell A. Turner, CPA speaks with David Arato, owner of Lexicon Legal Content, about law firm marketing and SEO as AI overviews and AI platforms reshape how clients find lawyers. Arato explains that while AI is a major shift, many fundamentals still apply: clean sites, valuable content, and omnichannel presence, with today’s emphasis on frequent, fresh, conversational content, technical elements like schema markup, and building authority through libraries of content, backlinks, and third-party mentions (including sources like Reddit). He notes that AI overviews now trigger for many legal searches, devaluing traditional #1 organic rankings and making AI citations critical for traffic and leads. He also defines common acronyms (SEO, AIO, GEO, AEO) and argues “zero-effort” AI content has “zero value,” warning of amplified misinformation and compliance risks.

    00:00 AI Content Ranking Reality
    00:20 Podcast Welcome Disclaimer
    00:59 Meet David Arato
    02:00 From Law School to SEO
    04:05 Is AI a Seismic Shift
    06:38 Winning AI Overviews
    10:27 SEO Timelines and PR Signals
    13:44 New SEO Acronyms Explained
    15:19 Zero Effort Content Trap
    19:55 Misinformation and Compliance Risks
    20:37 Where to Find David
    21:06 Final Wrap Up

    22 min
  • Legal Dimensions of the Gaming Industry

    In this episode of the Law Practice Today podcast features Chrissie Scelsi discussing how law applies to video games. Scelsi shares her background as an in-house attorney, co-editor and contributor to ABA publications on game development and intellectual property, former U.S. general counsel at Wargaming (World of Tanks), and her work at Universal Orlando on licensing and adapting The Last of Us into a Halloween Horror Nights haunted house. The conversation highlights the wide range of legal issues in gaming beyond IP—international operations, HR and office matters, esports contracts and rulebooks, data privacy, banking and anti-money laundering concerns, marketing and trend-based advertising, and uncertainty over laws aimed at online child safety and social media features. They also discuss ESRB ratings’ impact on content and advertising, right of publicity, and college football/NIL developments, and advice for young lawyers on networking and writing to break into the field.

    00:00 ESRB And Ratings
    00:22 Podcast Intro And Disclaimer
    01:01 Meet Chrissie Scelsi
    01:40 Her Path Into Game Law
    02:53 Universal And Horror Nights
    04:12 Beyond IP Global And Ops
    07:00 Marketing Trends And Risk
    08:20 New Regulations And Uncertainty
    09:11 Live Service Bills And Layoffs
    11:23 Breaking In Networking Writing
    15:30 Esports And Litigation War Stories
    17:44 Concerts In Games And Content Choices
    21:06 Right Of Publicity And NIL
    22:39 Books Resources And Wrap Up
    23:52 Closing Credits

    25 min
  • In-House Counseling: The New Law Firm Resource

    In this episode of the Law Practice Today podcast, Terrell A. Turner, CPA, discusses mental health and self-care in law firms with Adriana Buckingham, Esq, MSW, a Philadelphia-area attorney turned counselor who founded AB In-House Counseling. Buckingham explains how her experience as a litigator led her to seek support tailored to attorneys, prompting her to earn a social work degree while practicing law and then create counseling and coaching services for legal professionals through their employers. The conversation focuses on supporting associates and staff as a firm’s key resource, noting that healthier employees can improve productivity, retention, and client service. They discuss common challenges like time management, delegation, and saying yes to everything, and how reframing can help. Buckingham emphasizes strict confidentiality: firms pay for her time, not session substance.

    00:00 Associates Matter Most
    00:25 Podcast Intro Disclaimer
    01:04 Mental Health Focus
    01:54 Meet Adriana Buckingham
    02:35 From Lawyer to Counselor
    04:17 Balancing School and Practice
    05:48 Which Career Feels Rewarding
    08:01 Why Firms Should Support Staff
    11:01 Common Associate Struggles
    13:34 Coaching Not Crisis
    15:57 How In-House Counseling Works
    17:43 Contact and Closing

    20 min
  • AI Hallucinations in Court The Sullivan & Cromwell Lesson

    Recorded as a fireside chat at the ABA Law Practice Division Spring Meeting in San Diego, this special episode examines reports that Sullivan & Cromwell filed a brief containing nonexistent or inaccurate case citations and later apologized to opposing counsel and the court.

    Steve Embry, Jennifer Ellis, and Michael Eisenberg discuss why AI hallucinations continue to appear in legal filings despite widespread awareness of the risks. They point to ignored firm policies, time pressure, overreliance on confident-sounding AI outputs, and a lack of understanding of generative AI's limitations as key contributing factors.

    The discussion also explores how these failures relate to lawyers' ethical duties of competence, candor, and supervision. The speakers emphasize that legal citations should always be independently verified using traditional legal research tools—not AI—such as Shepardizing in Lexis or Westlaw. They also stress that proper training and experience are essential for recognizing unreliable AI-generated results.

    00:00 – AI Hallucinations Hit BigLaw
    00:37 – Show Intro and Disclaimer
    01:16 – Sullivan & Cromwell Brief Fallout
    02:19 – Why Lawyers Keep Getting Burned
    04:19 – Competence Rules and Citation Checks
    06:53 – Workflow Reality Check
    08:55 – Training to Spot Hallucinations
    10:45 – Verifying Citations Without AI Tools
    12:55 – Closing Thoughts and Wrap-Up
    13:02 – Podcast Outro and Resources

    14 min

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