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Our guest today is Je Yon Jung, senior counsel at May Lightfoot. 

Je Yon has more than two decades of legal experience, including work in consumer protection, civil rights, discrimination, and financial services. What all of this diverse work has in common is a dedication to serving communities that have been left out or abused by the legal and justice systems.

Je Yon emigrated to the United States with her family as a small child. From her earliest memories, she was certain that she wanted to be a lawyer. Though the patriarchal tradition of Korean culture left her with little support for this ambition, Je Yon's determination landed her in the Department of Justice only one year out of law school. Her work has now branched into the mass tort space with the complex and ongoing Zantac litigation.

In this interview, we'll discuss how Rodney King changed the trajectory of Je Yon's career, the value of friendships, and how she came to know so much about soccer.

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Our guest today is Cordell Carter II, a self-proclaimed “dreamer” and vivacious entrepreneur.

Growing up, Cordell couldn’t wait to leave his hometown in Virginia. It wasn’t because he didn’t love where he grew up; he simply had an innate hunger for adventure and exploration. His passion for travel was first ignited in 1985 when his uncle gave him a globe. He’d spin the globe and stop it with one finger, vowing to visit the place his finger landed on.

Cordell found his voice his freshman year of high school after joining a Morman musical enclave. Since then, Cordell has been using his voice to bring people together. He’s been the fuel behind the Festival of the Diaspora, a diverse and inclusive group focused on identifying and solving the most pressing issues that impact our global society.

In this interview, we discuss how Cordell found his voice through music, why the western world needs a revival, and the time he talked himself out of a presidential appointment at 24 years old.

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Our guest today is Paul Bland, the executive director of Public Justice.

Unlike many of his peers, Paul didn’t go to law school to practice as an attorney. Instead, he wanted to run for Congress one day.

In the 80s, after getting his Juris Doctorate from Harvard, Paul was working for the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee. From there, he found himself at a law firm where he was introduced to consumer class actions, which seems to be where his life trajectory shifted.

Working on toxic torts and forced arbitration, Paul became an advocate for the rights of consumers, and that eventually led him to Public Justice. In today’s episode, we discuss the twists and turns of Paul’s career, taking a case and arguing it before the US Supreme Court, and the joy of being a father.

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Today's guest is Michael Morse, founder of one of the nation's leading personal injury law firms. 

Michael grew up in a Detroit suburb, where his offices still reside today. Though his early life was disrupted by the divorce of his parents and bullying in school, Michael discovered a childhood knack for marketing and entrepreneurship before he was even a teenager,. The money he earned helped build a sense of independence and security in a world that felt uncertain.

The death of his father, who had inspired him to be a lawyer, changed everything.  In his journey/quest to rise above the death of his father and the subsequent loss of multiple jobs, Michael developed an attitude and a system to learn and improve himself. Today, that’s what he calls becoming "Fireproof".  Michael now teaches the Fireproof method to lawyers all over the nation.

In this interview, we discuss the principles of Fireproof, but perhaps more importantly, the immense power of gratefulness, exercise, and delegation in overcoming life's personal and professional challenges.  

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Prya Murad is a Miami-based attorney who is passionate about criminal and juvenile defense. 

Prya immigrated to the U.S. from Pakistan when she was just three years old. Growing up in Hazard, Kentucky, Prya recalls her desire to fit in, particularly in a school where she’d hear comments about what culture is supposedly like in Pakistan. When 9/11 happened, Prya and her family experienced prejudice rooted to fear and ignorance.

Prya didn’t grow up in a religious household. She stopped believing in God around middle school, and her father was proud of her for that. 

In today’s episode, Luke and Prya talk about her passion for being a public defender, why the media sensationalizes trials, and how her grandmother was interrogated by the Pakistani military at 80 years old. 

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Brian Cuban is an attorney, best-selling author, and speaker. His story is one of triumph and recovery.

Brian began battling body dysmorphia at a young age, a mental health disorder where an individual can’t stop thinking about their perceived defects or flaws as it relates to their appearance. He struggled to feel comfortable in his own body, especially in a household where his mother often fat-shamed him.

At 18-years-old, Brian began binging and purging. This eating disorder followed him into college, where he began a pattern of drinking alone. Not long after starting his freshman year, Brian developed anorexia.

Brian decided to attend law school because he believed that it would allow him to continue a lifestyle he depended on. For another three years, he could continue to engage in behaviors that had become survival to him.

After college, Brian moved to Dallas where he was introduced to cocaine. In his own words, Brian found the magic trick to instantly transform himself. Throughout the years, Brian received help and support from his brothers, and he started his journey of sobriety April 8, 2007 after 20 years of addiction.

In today’s episode, Luke and Brian talk about the impact of an emotionally abusive mother, how he felt like the best version of himself when he tried cocaine, and the defining moment when he decided to fully commit to sobriety.

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Our guest today is Ali Awad, founder of the personal injury firm Ali Awad Law. Ali is a first-generation Palestinian immigrant who moved to an abandoned trailer in the Bible Belt at the age of three.

Like many of our guests, Ali was entrepreneurial from a young age.  He used the fierce competition between his siblings to develop a work ethic that has now created one of the fastest growing law firms in the nation.

Much of that success has been due to his skillful use of social media platforms.  Ali has generated a following of more than 1.5 million on Instagram alone, and his account is often used to help others learn how to do the same. 

In this interview, we discuss traditional Islamic marriage in the modern world,  Ali's dream of building the first Muslim hospital in the US, and how he made his first million only a year after being rejected by his 100th law firm.

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Our guest today is Julia Metts, attorney with Levin, Papantonio, and Rafferty in Florida. 

Julia was born to a Pentecostal homemaker and a rebel atheist, and as the youngest of three children, often found herself the center of attention.  From an early age, Julia exhibited a gift for persuasion. Between that and her father's early problems with the law, her path toward a career as a lawyer was clear.

What Julia hadn't expected is that much of that career would be spent in prosecution.  After quickly developing a name for herself, some defense lawyers wouldn't even dare face her in court.

In this interview, we discuss Julia's experiences as a member of the LGBTQ+ community while attending a Baptist college, the loss of the first woman she ever loved, her biggest tips for prosecuting attorneys, and how being a parent has shaped her life. 

A note to listeners: Julia and I will be discussing some disturbing court cases and personal experiences involving suicide and violence against women.  While we won't discuss graphic details, listener discretion is advised.

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Are you ready for another line-up of incredible stories about lawyers and the trials they face inside and outside the courtroom?

In our Season Three lineup, we have not held back as we have collected powerful tales from remarkable people. 

You'll hear inspiring stories from:

• Julia Metts
• Je Yon Jung
• Chris Seeger
• Paul Bland
• Prya Murad
• Mike Morse
• Ali Awad
• Randi McGinn
• Mary Lehman
• Brian Cuban
• James Helm

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The Milestone Foundation is a nonprofit organization that helps individuals and their families after they’ve suffered a catastrophic accident. The foundation helps plaintiffs in need pay for basic living expenses during litigation. 

This week's conversation highlights Milestone Foundation and goes more in-depth regarding what they’re all about. The goal of this conversation between Luke and John is to help listeners like you understand if what Milestone Foundation has to offer is something that would benefit you or someone you know.

Listen in to Luke and John’s conversation as they discuss Milestone Foundations’ services and why a law firm may or may not want to pursue their services for their clients or support them financially.

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