We caught up with FLAME at the 2025 LCMS Youth Gathering! Grammy-nominated Christian rap artist Flame (author of Extra Nos and Because Jesus Taught It, Mass Event Speaker and Mass Event Plus performer) joins Andy and Sarah at the 2025 LCMS Youth Gathering to talk about what he's been experiencing at this summer's Gathering, his preparation for being a Mass Event Speaker and Mass Event Plus performer, what it's like to perform for 20,000 Lutherans, why a gathering like this is important for youth, the best part of meeting and talking with so many youth, and how an experience like this informs his artistic work. You can find Flame's work at extranosacademy.com and his books from Concordia Publishing House at cph.org/flame.