Unlock the profound truth that reshaped a generation’s view on God's purpose through a powerful 1968 talk by Hugh B. Brown. What if the trials and setbacks you face aren't failures, but the divine pruning of a loving Gardener?

This episode explores how understanding that our Heavenly Father is the ultimate Gardener transforms pain into purpose, and setbacks into stepping stones. Join Brennon and Eric as they reveal how pride, doubt, and challenge are essential parts of divine growth.

They break down key insights from Brown’s talk, including how life's hardships aren’t punishments but opportunities to better understand divine timing. Discover how trusting God's mysterious plan can turn confusion into clarity and rejection into redirection.

You’ll discover: the importance of making spiritual growth personal, practical ways to deepen your relationship with Heavenly Father, and how embracing vulnerability in faith allows us to hear His small and still voice. We delve into the significance of questioning God—yes, questioning!—as a vital part of developing trust and getting to know Him better. Learn why our failures are just the soil for future success and how patience in His timing unlocks eternal growth.This episode isn't just about understanding trials—it's about transforming how you see them. If you're tired of feeling stuck or misunderstood, and ready to embrace your divine purpose with renewed confidence, this conversation is essential. Perfect for anyone seeking to deepen their trust in God's plan and grow through life’s storms.

With vulnerability and real-life stories, Brennon and Eric highlight how God’s love and personal care guide us, even when the results aren’t immediate or clear. They share how the simple act of trusting, questioning, and growing leads to profound spiritual insights—and ultimately—closer connection with your Heavenly Father.

Whether you’re in the middle of hardship or simply seeking to strengthen your faith, this episode offers practical, soul-deep encouragement. Make it personal. Make it real. And discover how to be what the Lord needs you to be, one step at a time.

Most people don’t realize how their greatest spiritual breakthroughs often start with a basketball game or a simple act of kindness. Daric's journey from a casual observer to a devout member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is a story of patience, questions, and divine encounters that will inspire anyone wrestling with faith or on the path to conversion.

In this revealing episode, Daric shares how fleeting moments—like playing basketball or watching conference—became pivotal in his spiritual transformation. He explains how living in a non-member family, with little religious pressure, allowed him to forge his own relationship with God, inspired by the kindness and example of LDS friends. You'll discover how early exposure to the Lord’s Prayer and simple acts of being genuine opened the door to deeper faith later in life.

We break down Daric’s powerful journey from fence-sitter to believer, highlighting key insights like the importance of authentic community, the relevance of personal sacred moments, and why honest questions and prayer are foundational in conversion.

You'll hear how a challenging car ride filled with anti-Mormon propaganda fortified his resolve rather than deterring it—all thanks to sincere relationships and unwavering curiosity.This episode underscores an extraordinary truth: faith is a continuous process, not a one-time event. Daric’s story demonstrates how love, support, and living the gospel authentically can lead to profound change—culminating in life-changing decisions like baptism and temple sealing. His experience is a testament to the power of divine timing, personal revelation, and perseverance through doubts and challenges.

Perfect for recent converts, faithful members seeking renewed commitment, or anyone curious about the real, messy, beautiful journey of finding God—this story celebrates the ongoing process of spiritual growth. Whether you’re questioning, doubting, or just beginning, Daric’s story reminds us all that genuine conversion is a lifelong adventure fueled by love, questions, and prayer.Daric Schweikart is a seasoned leader in church service, a respected executive in technology, and a man whose faith deepened through sincere inquiry and divine encounters. His wisdom bridges the worlds of faith and leadership, making this episode a must-listen for those seeking real, relatable inspiration on their spiritual journey.

Join us for an episode that’s not just about faith—it’s about the incredible transformation when love, questions, and divine guidance come together. Hit play, and discover why Daric’s story is a testament to the enduring power of authentic faith in everyday life.

In this episode of True Conversion, Let's Be Real, Brennon and Eric dive into the difference between testimony and conversion—and why that distinction matters. They talk honestly about how testimony is built through prayer, obedience, action, and personal revelation, and why spiritual growth often happens slowly, quietly, and in different ways for everyone.They also discuss the power of authenticity: how the most meaningful testimonies are not cookie-cutter, but deeply personal and lived out through example as much as words. From scripture, conference talks, and missionary experiences to everyday moments of listening and acting on the Spirit, this conversation is a reminder that faith is rarely instant—but it is always real.If you’ve ever wondered how to strengthen your own testimony or support someone else on their faith journey, this episode offers a thoughtful, relatable perspective on trusting God, doing the hard things, and letting your life testify for you.

Most of us spend years learning how to hold fear at arm’s length, but true peace begins when we anchor our identity in something deeper than our doubts. In this powerful episode of True Conversion, Lani Baker shares how faith, loss, and personal revelation reshaped her understanding of who she is and where her strength comes from.

Raised with a deep belief in prayer, obedience, and divine love, Lani reflects on the profound silence that followed her father’s passing and how that empty space became the turning point in her testimony.

Together, we explore what it means to build a testimony “line upon line,” why fear can distort the stories we tell ourselves, and how truth cuts through anxiety and spiritual confusion.

Lani opens up about learning to trust Heavenly Father as the source of her deepest identity, and why the atonement of Jesus Christ is not just a doctrine, but the foundation for moving forward with confidence.

If you’ve ever struggled with fear, self-doubt, grief, or the pressure to be enough on your own, this conversation offers a hopeful reminder: you are already known, already loved, and already invited to lay your burdens down. Listen in for a heartfelt conversation about testimony, identity, and the kind of faith that grows through real life, real loss, and real revelation.

Let's Be Real - Brennon discusses Jesus' ultimate example of prayer and how it relates to the Atonement.

Let's Be Real - Brennon & Eric explore the story of Enos and how it relates to their own stories.

Our first conversion story comes from me. I share my journey to true conversion the ins and outs when I learned of the Truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.