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After ten episodes of Ted Lasso Season 4, we're doing something a little different.
Welcome to the first-ever Lead It Like Lasso Awards Show!
We've laughed, we've cried, we've debated Beard's questionable hairstyles, and we've spent far too much time trying to figure out why Ted's chair kept sinking.
Now it's time to recognize the moments, characters, and leadership lessons that made Season 4 memorable.
Nick and Marnie each selected their winners independently, without sharing their choices beforehand. And let's just say the results weren't always unanimous.
Ten awards. Three rounds. Two hosts. Plenty of opinions.
Round 1: The Leadership Awards
We begin with the heart of our podcast: leadership.
Who delivered the season's best leadership moment?
Who learned the most from their mistakes?
Who made the worst leadership decision?
And which character experienced the greatest transformation?
Nick makes the case that Ted stepping aside to become Alice's assistant might be the most powerful leadership moment of the entire season. Marnie champions Beard's ability to help Boots reconsider her resistance to wearing gloves.
We also explore Alice Chilton's remarkable growth, Rebecca's blind spots, and why individual ambition can sometimes undermine a team.
Round 2: The Heart of Richmond
This is where things get emotional.
Which moment made us unexpectedly tear up?
Who demonstrated what it really means to show up for another person?
And who best embodied the spirit of BELIEVE?
Mae takes center stage as we reflect on her remarkable legacy, from her unforgettable pregame speech to the final montage that left us both emotional.
We also celebrate the long-awaited return of the Diamond Dogs, now featuring their very first Cat Person.
And we discover that sometimes the most powerful way to support someone isn't to offer advice.
It's simply to be there.
Round 3: Only in Ted Lasso
Time to lighten things up.
Who delivered the best F-bomb?
What was the most satisfying Easter egg or callback?
And what was the funniest moment of Season 4?
We revisit Roy Kent's finest moments, Ted's army man, Keeley's makeup-based football commentary, and the hilariously unexpected reunion between Jamie, Roy, and “Jump Around.”
And yes, we both go off the nomination board.
Apparently, we're not very good at following our own awards-show rules.
The Final Whistle
After the awards, we take a broader look at Season 4.
Did it live up to our expectations?
How does it compare to the original three seasons?
What surprised us most?
And which leadership lessons will stay with us long after the final whistle?
For Nick, one of the season's most powerful lines comes from Alice:
“Don't disappear when you feel inadequate.”
It's advice for Roy, for Ted, and for anyone who's ever struggled with imposter syndrome.
We also return to another important lesson: sometimes people don't need us to solve their problems. They just need us to listen.
And we revisit a question raised in the season finale:
Seasons 1–3 gave us BELIEVE. Did Season 4 give us BE ALIVE?
Maybe growth isn't about having everything figured out.
Maybe it's about embracing change, uncertainty, risk, and the messiness of being human.
Plus: A Surprise Bonus Award!
Marnie introduces The Higgins Award, honoring the best piece of advice from Season 4.
We share our selections and make one final plea for more Leslie Higgins wisdom in the seasons ahead.
We also discuss our predictions for Season 5, including Ted's future, Roy and Keeley's changing roles, and what Zelda might do with her 49% ownership stake.
And there's one mystery we still need solved:
Who the heck is Derek?
We Want Your Votes!
Which winners did we get right?
Which ones did we get completely wrong?
What awards should we have included?
Let us know your favorite moments and leadership lessons from Season 4!
And don't unsubscribe just because the season is over. We've got some fun bonus episodes planned while we wait for what's next.
About the hosts
Nick Coniglio and Marnie Stockman are the co-authors of Lead It Like Lasso and The Business of You. Together, they explore leadership, coaching, culture, and life through the lessons of Ted Lasso.
Visit https://leaditlikelasso.com to learn more and subscribe to our Weekly Curiosities newsletter.
Stay curious. Stay kind. And keep leading it like Lasso.
The Season 4 finale is here.
And after a season filled with change, fear, uncertainty, new beginnings and plenty of messiness, maybe the biggest lesson isn't about having everything figured out.
Maybe it's simply:
BE ALIVE.
Season 4, Episode 10 — “Being Alive” — begins at Mae's wake and ends with almost every character stepping into something new.
This week on the Lead It Like Lasso Podcast, we start with the callbacks.
The Diamond Dogs return, with Alice becoming the very first Cat People.
Nate is now coaching the Polish national team, is married to Jade, and their daughter is named Athena.
Sam delivers a perfectly timed Wizard of Oz lesson about sometimes needing to leave before you understand where home truly is.
Keeley brings back the red slippers.
Ted leaves Roy an army man and a note telling him he'll be a great dad.
Beard's midlife-crisis transformation finally gets completely stripped away.
And after an entire season of watching Ted's chair mysteriously sink...
we finally discover the culprit.
Alice.
But underneath all those callbacks are some big leadership lessons.
Rebecca gives us the line that may summarize the entire finale:
“We laugh, we hurt, we fall, we get back up. We're a mess.”
Leadership isn't clean.
Parenthood isn't clean.
Relationships aren't clean.
Careers definitely aren't clean.
Growth isn't about getting your life perfectly arranged.
Maybe it's about becoming more comfortable living while it's unresolved.
For Seasons 1–3, we had:
BELIEVE.
Maybe Season 4 gives us:
BE ALIVE.
We're not quite finished with Season 4.
Next week, we're doing a full Season 4 review to look back at the character arcs, storylines, leadership lessons and predictions across all ten episodes.
Stay curious. Stay kind. And always keep leading it like Lasso.
Two matches left.
One win needed for promotion.
And the Lady Greyhounds are struggling.
Six weeks after Gemma's injury, Richmond hasn't figured out how to replace her offense. But in Season 4, Episode 9 — “Mae Rides the Bus” — the answer isn't necessarily working harder or completely reinventing themselves.
Sometimes you just need to think again.
Boots has to reconsider the gloves.
Gemma has to reconsider playing through pain.
Alice has to reconsider Shannon.
And Shannon?
She may need to stop thinking altogether.
This week on the Lead It Like Lasso Podcast, we dig into:
And then there's Mae.
Ted brings her on the team bus to Bristol and eventually gives her the floor before the biggest match of the Lady Greyhounds' season.
Mae isn't a coach.
She's not a player.
She's not a sports psychologist.
She's a fan.
But she remembers something everyone else needs to hear.
She remembers why this matters.
Mae grew up wanting to be a footballer during a time when women weren't allowed to play. Now she's standing in front of a locker room full of women preparing to earn promotion.
She doesn't need a title to lead them.
She just needs her story.
We talk about leading from anywhere, why institutional memory matters, and the legacy Mae leaves behind.
Because sometimes when a team gets buried in tactics, metrics and pressure, they don't need another strategy.
They need someone who remembers why they're there.
We also dig into Keeley's pregnancy and why happiness and anxiety aren't contradictions. Keeley is thrilled and terrified, which leads to a broader conversation about our desire for certainty.
Parenting. Leadership. Starting a company. Taking a new job. Coaching a team.
Sometimes anxiety doesn't mean you're unprepared.
Sometimes it means you care.
And then there's the football.
Boots finally puts on the gloves.
Shannon finally gets out of her head.
The twins' almost supernatural connection becomes an actual strategy.
Gemma listens to her body.
Richmond comes back from 2-0 down and earns promotion to the Super League.
Roy Kent recreates the entire match using Keeley's makeup.
And Keeley whispers some enormous news in Roy's ear:
“That's the best fucking thing I've ever heard in my life.”
But the celebration doesn't last long.
We learn the mysterious investor trying to gain control of AFC Richmond isn't Rupert.
It's Zelda.
And Mae collapses in the stands.
So we finish with our predictions for the finale.
What does Zelda really want?
Will the Milk Sisters sell?
Could Mae's shares become the key to saving Rebecca's control of Richmond?
Could Mae's ownership pass to Baz, Jeremy and Paul?
What happens with Roy's unsigned contract now that Keeley is pregnant?
Is Alice being prepared to take over the Lady Greyhounds?
And was Henry's comment about Ted missing another one of his matches more important than it seemed?
Oh...
and apparently Beard really did get hair plugs.
We were right about that too.
Stay curious. Stay kind. And always keep leading it like Lasso.
The Lady Greyhounds are winning.
They're climbing the table. The BELIEVE sign is filling up with Post-it notes. Gemma is emerging as a star.
And then everything changes.
In Season 4, Episode 8 — “Follow the Anger” — Gemma injures her knee while chasing a hat trick, throwing Alice and the entire team into a tailspin.
And Alice gives us what might be one of our favorite lines of Season 4:
“I think on the other side of you being scared is you being free.”
Fear is everywhere in this episode.
Gemma is afraid of what her injury could mean.
Alice is afraid she's responsible.
Keeley is afraid Roy will leave again.
Roy is afraid he's not worthy of Keeley.
Rebecca learns that someone is secretly trying to gain control of Richmond.
And Higgins gets some wonderfully cryptic advice from Mae:
Follow the anger.
This week, we dig into:
That last lesson becomes especially powerful through Gemma.
After an injury, everyone initially checks on you. Everyone is concerned.
Then people start moving on.
The calls slow down.
The messages stop.
And eventually the person who is still struggling can begin to feel like they're disappearing in real time.
Alice refuses to let that happen to Gemma.
And when Gemma arrives for her MRI, she discovers her entire team waiting for her.
Sometimes leadership isn't fixing the problem.
It's making sure someone doesn't experience it alone.
And then...
Roy and Keeley. FINALLY.
Their disastrous trip to Chelsea becomes one of the best dates they never planned.
Roy tells Keeley:
“There's no one else I'd rather be wrong with than you.”
Keeley finally admits why she's been keeping him at a distance:
“There's no one else I'd rather be scared with than you.”
Roy even pays off Keeley's earlier warning about putting her on a pedestal. The answer isn't pulling Keeley down.
It's recognizing that Roy is worthy of standing beside her.
Because he's Roy fucking Kent.
And she's Keeley fucking Jones.
Which sounds remarkably similar to something in the foreword of Lead It Like Lasso.
Coincidence?
We're choosing to believe otherwise.
We also break down Shakespeare, A League of Their Own, Alice's panic attack mirroring Ted's, Storyworthy, another terrible Derek, Zelda's mysterious scarf, Beard's strange new look, and the continuing mystery of Ted's sinking chair.
Finally, Mae helps Higgins discover who's secretly buying shares of AFC Richmond.
Rupert.
With only a couple of episodes remaining, we make our predictions about Rupert, Zelda, Alice, Ted, Roy and that damn chair.
Stay curious. Stay kind. And keep leading it like Lasso.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Turns out that's not necessarily great leadership.
In Season 4, Episode 7 — “Yes & Baby” — Alice is determined to become a better version of herself. So she embraces a new philosophy: say yes.
To everything.
Barefoot practice? Yes.
Blindfolds? Yes.
Water break? Yes.
Then Ted introduces her to one of the fundamental principles of improv:
Yes, and.
As Ted explains it, yes opens the door. “And” allows people to walk through it.
And that distinction gives us one of our favorite leadership conversations of the season.
This week, we dig into:
The episode also gives us perhaps the most important evolution of one of Ted Lasso's most iconic ideas.
Alice hangs Ted's new BELIEVE sign in the women's locker room.
The players aren't impressed.
Why?
They already believe.
They wouldn't be playing second-division football if they didn't.
These women are juggling childcare, rent increases, broken cars, internships, second jobs and football. Belief isn't their problem.
And as Shannon points out, the men's team already has a BELIEVE sign.
They don't want a hand-me-down culture.
They need to make it their own.
So Alice does exactly what she's been learning to do:
Yes, and...
The team adds two words:
AND WIN.
BELIEVE becomes BELIEVE AND WIN.
Because great culture can't simply be copied and pasted from one team to another. Leaders can introduce an idea, but the people living that culture have to make it their own.
We also get plenty of Easter eggs and callbacks, including Peaky Blinders, “Red Right Hand,” Charlotte's Web, the Ted Tax, the Scorpion and the Frog, another suspicious Derek, and the continuing mystery of Ted's sinking chair.
Then come the predictions.
Is Charlotte's Web foreshadowing someone preparing Richmond for a future without them?
Is Roy really leaving at the end of the season?
Could Alice eventually move into Ted's chair?
Will Ted return to Bantr?
And we're completely changing our Zelda prediction.
Instead of Zelda changing Rebecca, what if Rebecca is here to change Zelda?
Finally, Ted puts last week's lesson into action.
He deletes his Bantr application, goes to the theatre and asks the Stage Manager out in person.
She says she'd absolutely date him...
except she just started seeing someone.
Sometimes growth isn't getting the outcome you wanted.
Sometimes it's being willing to ask.
Stay curious. Stay kind. And keep leading it like Lasso.
It's New Year's Eve in Richmond.
And everybody seems to be somewhere between who they were and who they're becoming.
In Season 4, Episode 6 — “Don't Jump Around Much Anymore” — the Lady Greyhounds head to Zelda's extravagant boat party, Rebecca and Keeley attend a celebrity vodka launch, Ted spends the evening with Michelle and Henry, and Roy Kent makes one very unfortunate decision when he hears “Jump Around.”
Oh, and Jamie Tartt is back.
But underneath all the New Year's chaos is one of our favorite leadership ideas:
Sometimes perfect is the opposite of good.
Jamie gives Rebecca that advice after she admits she may have ruined something wonderful with Matthijs because it wasn't perfect. But the idea keeps showing up throughout the episode.
Alice wants to show up perfectly.
Ted may be waiting until he's perfectly ready to date.
Rebecca wants certainty.
And Michelle gives Ted essentially the same lesson:
Continuous improvement is better than delayed perfection.
Which sounds suspiciously similar to one of our Rules from Lead It Like Lasso:
Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
We're sure the writers read our book.
Probably.
Maybe.
This week, we also dig into:
And, naturally, there are plenty of callbacks and Easter eggs.
We get Cast Away, Forrest Gump, Saving Private Ryan, Eyes Wide Shut, David Hockney, a possible Cristiano Ronaldo reference, the Roy Kent chant turned inside out, and one of the funniest Roy/Jamie scenes we've seen.
Roy Kent should not have jumped around.
On the relationship front, Keeley overhears almost all of Roy's drug-induced confession to Erin — except the part where he finally says:
“I love you, Keeley.”
We also get confirmation that Ted hasn't forgotten about the mysterious Stage Manager, Matthijs makes a New Year's Eve return, and Beard discovers that sometimes waiting until midnight doesn't work out exactly as planned.
Finally, Michelle leaves Ted with one last gift:
A new BELIEVE sign.
Same message.
Different colors.
Is this simply the same Ted becoming a different version of himself?
Or does the reversed sign mean that after years of believing in everyone around him, Ted finally needs to learn to believe in himself?
We'll be watching.
And for the first time, we're experiencing Ted Lasso right along with you. Tell us what we missed and what you think happens next.
Stay curious. Stay kind. And keep leading it like Lasso.
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Embarrassment.
An emotion so useless, according to Ted Lasso, “it should be embarrassed of itself.”
But is it really useless?
Season 4, Episode 5 — “Riches of Embarrassment” — gives us one of the most leadership-packed episodes of the season so far.
The Richmond women are preparing for their biggest match yet against Chelsea. Keeley thinks she's sold out Nelson Road. Alice is becoming increasingly frustrated with Ted and the players. Rebecca is worried that closing the distance with Matthijs could destroy their relationship. Roy's ten-date experiment takes an unexpected turn.
And Beard goes to see Jane's one-woman show.
Because of course he does.
This week, we explore one of Ted's biggest ideas:
Embarrassment can keep us small and scared.
But Marnie pushes back. Maybe embarrassment isn't useless. Maybe it's an important guardrail — until we allow it to keep us from taking the risks necessary to grow.
We also dig into:
And there are plenty of Easter eggs and callbacks, including a brilliant Season 1 mustard callback, The Town, Bridesmaids, Macbeth, Princess Jasmine, biscuits, Nate, and several theatre superstitions that don't work out particularly well for Beard.
Marnie also introduces a new category:
The anti-callback.
We'll see if that sticks.
Finally, we make our predictions: Boots and her gloves, Shannon's role in Alice's redemption, Zelda's real intentions, the mysterious stage manager, Roy's new relationship — and Nick once again insisting that Ted and Rebecca are endgame.
For the first time, we're watching Ted Lasso right along with you. So tell us what we missed and what you think happens next.
Stay curious. Stay kind. And keep leading it like Lasso.
Sponsors
This episode is proudly sponsored by... us.
📘 The Business of You
What if you approached your life like the CEO of your own company?
The Business of You helps you discover your strengths, understand your values, tell your story, and intentionally build what's next.
💙 Blue
Blue takes those ideas and puts them into action — helping you capture experiences, uncover patterns, understand what makes you uniquely you, and turn those insights into stories you can actually use.
If you've ever thought, “I wish someone could help me discover my strengths, tell my story, or figure out what I want to do with my life,” that's exactly why we created them.
The Lady Greyhounds are undefeated. They’re also very much not a team yet.
In Season 4, Episode 4, Greyhounds’ Day Off, Ted discovers that winning can hide a culture problem as attackers, defenders and midfielders retreat into their own cliques. Which means it’s time for some intentional team building. Naturally, this being Ted Lasso, it ends with a pub fight and a trip to jail.
We dig into why teams have to form, storm, norm and perform, why good team building is about interaction rather than activities, and why the way the Greyhounds behave off the pitch tells us a lot about who they are on it.
We also get one of our favorite leadership ideas of the season when Keeley explains that Rebecca’s constant no actually makes her ideas better. We connect that to David Epstein’s work on constraints and innovation, the importance of having your own Diamond Dogs, and why sometimes the person pushing back on your idea is exactly the person you need.
Plus:
Whistle, whistle. Game’s over, but the leadership lessons keep on playing.
The Lady Greyhounds are starting to feel like a real team.
But building something new isn't easy.
In Season 4, Episode 3 — “Richmond's Got Talent” — AFC Richmond needs a striker, the Higgins Report is causing trouble, a sponsor gets cold feet, Keeley's kits are nowhere to be found, and the Richmond faithful aren't exactly embracing change.
Sounds like a leadership challenge to us.
This week, we explore one of the episode's biggest ideas:
Life is a series of chances.
Richmond takes a chance on a women's team. Ted takes a chance on Shannon. Ted takes a chance on Alice. Alice takes a chance on Gemma. Gemma takes another chance on football. And Rebecca has to convince Pinter & Sons to take another chance on Richmond.
But that raises an interesting leadership question:
When is believing in someone leadership—and when does it become favoritism?
We also dig into:
And, of course, predictions.
Is Lizzie our future captain?
Are Beard and Alice becoming...a thing?
What does Roy's expiring contract mean?
Are Roy and Keeley finally headed back toward each other?
And Nick is doubling down on his long-term Ted + Rebecca prediction.
We could be brilliant. We could be completely wrong. That's the fun of watching Season 4 in real time.
Stay curious. Stay kind. And always keep leading it like Lasso.
Sponsors
This episode is proudly sponsored by... us.
📘 The Business of You
What if you approached your life like the CEO of your own company?
The Business of You helps you discover your strengths, understand your values, tell your story, and intentionally build what's next.
💙 Blue
Blue takes those ideas and puts them into action—helping you capture experiences, uncover patterns, understand what makes you uniquely you, and turn those insights into stories you can actually use.
If you've ever thought, “I wish someone could help me discover my strengths, tell my story, or figure out what I want to do with my life,” that's exactly why we created them.
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Ted's back in Richmond. The BELIEVE sign is back. And dare we say it... Ted Lasso is starting to feel like Ted Lasso again.
This week, we're breaking down Season 4, Episode 2, “Curiouser and Curiouser!”
Ted meets the Richmond women's team and quickly becomes fascinated by the stories behind the players—especially Boots, a goalkeeper who refuses to wear gloves. But the biggest story Ted uncovers may belong to Alice Chilton, the abrasive, brutally honest coach who has just resigned after being passed over for the top job.
The episode reinforces one of our favorite leadership ideas:
Stats tell you what. Stories tell you why.
We talk about why great leaders get curious about the person behind the résumé, why reputation and identity aren't the same thing, and how Ted uses Alice's own story to see something in her that others may have missed.
We also dig into:
For the first time, we're watching Ted Lasso in real time right along with you—so our predictions could be brilliant...or completely wrong.
Either way, stay curious, stay kind, and keep leading it like Lasso.
Sponsors
This episode is proudly sponsored by... us.
The Business of You
What if you approached your life like the CEO of your own company? The Business of You helps you discover your strengths, understand your values, tell your story, and intentionally build what's next.
Blue
Blue takes those ideas and puts them into action—helping you capture experiences, uncover patterns, understand what makes you uniquely you, and turn those insights into stories you can actually use.
If you've ever thought, “I wish someone could help me discover my strengths, tell my story, or figure out what I want to do with my life,” that's exactly why we created them.
You can find these here: The Business of You and Blue.
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