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  • 14. How to ensure successful leadership transitions - Michael Watkins

    The statistics are sobering, not only do 49% of external executive hires end in failure within 18 months, but internal moves prove to be challenging as well. For instance, 40% of internal job moves involving high potentials also end in failure. Besides the fact that these failures often have a traumatic impact for the individuals involved, the costs for the organizations are huge. Not only in terms of imago and hiring costs but, more importantly, in terms of opportunity costs.

    To find out why leadership transitions prove to be so hard, and what companies and individuals can do about it, I interviewed Michael Watkins for my Leadership 2.0 podcast.

    Michael D Watkins is Professor of Leadership and Organizational Change. He is a globally recognized leadership transitions expert and author of several best-selling books, including ‘The First 90 Days: Proven Strategies for Getting Up to Speed Faster and Smarter’. Additionally, he is co-founder of Genesis Advisors, a company whose mission it is to accelerate leaders to to reach their full potential, energise teams to achieve peak performance, and transform organizations to outperform the competition

    During our conversation, Michael and I discussed the following topics:

    0️⃣1️⃣ Where Michael’s interest in (leadership) transitions stems from
    0️⃣2️⃣ The importance of accelerating leadership transitions (ROI)
    0️⃣3️⃣ Why many companies do not pay enough attention to leadership transitions 
    0️⃣4️⃣ Why do internal moves so often fail
    0️⃣5️⃣ Homework for leaders who are about to make an internal move
    0️⃣6️⃣ Why companies (too) often hire external talent
    0️⃣7️⃣ Homework for leaders contemplating to make an external move
    0️⃣8️⃣ External hires asked to drive change - but not to upset the system
    0️⃣9️⃣ How can companies protect their investments in leadership transitions?
    1️⃣0️⃣ Why did Michael founded Genesis Advisers and what does it do?

    Resources:


    • Books by Michael Watkins: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Michael-Watkins/author/B001JS6RV8?ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true
    • Michael Watkins - IMD: https://www.imd.org/faculty/professors/michael-watkins/
    • Genesis Advisors: https://www.genesisadvisers.com/

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    51 min
  • 13. Understanding Organizations...Finally - Henry Mintzberg

    ‘We live in a world of organizations - and we do not understand them’

    This is one of the statements Henry Mintzberg, one of the leading thinkers in the field of Management, made when I interviewed him for my Leadership 2.0 Podcast about his latest book ‘Understanding Organizations…Finally'.

    During our conversation, we discussed the following topics:

    1. The importance for organizations to get their structure ‘right’
    2. How Henry’s thinking about organizations has evolved in the last 40 years, and what some of the changes and updates he made in this book as a result
    3. Henry’s statement that ‘Every (organization) form contains the seeds of its own destruction.’ 
    4. ‘Emergent structures’ as an alternative to large scale organization restructuring initiatives
    5. The fit between the personality of a leader and the structure of the organization
    6. The link between the structures of Apple and Tesla, and the personalities of Steve Jobs and Elon Musk. What, if anything, could ‘established’ organizations learn from this?
    7. The complimentary role of conflict and culture in organizations
    8. The relationship between structure and culture in organizations
    9. Where the gap between the formulators and implementers of corporate strategies stems from, and how this can be closed
    10. The interest in structuring organizations in the academic and the business world


    About Henry Mintzberg

    Henry Mintzberg is the Cleghorn professor of management studies at the Desautels Faculty of Management, McGill University in Montreal. He was visiting professor at INSEAD, Carnegie-Mellon University, and the London Business School. He has been engaged as a consultant to a number of organizations, and was president of the Strategic Management Society from 1988 to 1991.

    He is the author of 21 books, including ‘The Nature of Managerial Work’, ‘Managers not MBAs’, ‘Simply Managing’, ‘Rebalancing Society, Managing the Myths of Health Care’, and ‘Understanding Organizations...Finally!’ (2023). He also wrote 184 articles, numerous commentaries and produced videos.

    He publishes a regular TWOG (TWeet 2 blOG), on Twitter and LinkedIn.

    Finally Henry co-founded, and remains active, in the International Masters Program for Managers and the International Masters for Health Leadership, as well as the venture CoachingOurselves.com.

    Resources

    Website Henry Mintzberg: https://mintzberg.org/
    Twitter Account Henry Mintzberg: @mintzberg141
    International Masters Program for Managers: impm.org
    International Masters for Health Leadership: mcgill.ca/imhl

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    33 min
  • 12. 'Using your intuition' - Eugene Sadler-Smith

    In this episode, I am interviewing Professor Eugene Sadler-Smith of the Surrey Business School about the role of intuition in decision-making processes.

    During our conversation, we discussed the following topics:

    1 What intuition is and what it is not
    2 The two types of intuition
    3 Adopting an Ambidextrous Mindset
    4 How to take important decisions in business
    5 Carl Jung and Intuition
    6 Why the intuitive mind is a slow learner
    7 Values and ethics in decision-making processes
    8 Final Thoughts - AI and intuition


    Eugene Sadler Smith is a Professor of Organizational Behaviour at the Surrey Business School. His research interests include hubris (in leadership, business, and politics) and intuition (in decision-making and creativity). 

    He published over 100 articles in peer-reviewed journals, and his research has featured on BBC Radio 4, BBC Local Radio, Sky TV, The Insight Channel, The Times, The Guardian, and others. 

    Eugene worked on research and executive education projects with, amongst others, Tesco, Mind Gym, ICSA, CIPD, Met Police, Surrey Police, Welsh Government, Forbes, Home Office and the Scottish Government.

    He has written a number of books: Learning and Development for Managers (Blackwell, 2006); Inside Intuition (Routledge, 2008); The Intuitive Mind (John Wiley and Sons, 2010, translated into Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, and Russian); Hubristic Leadership (with a Foreword by Lord David Owen, SAGE, 2018); Human Resource Development: From Theory into Practice (SAGE, 2022), and ‘Intuition in Business’ (Oxford University Press in 2023).

    In the next coming months two new books by his hand will be published ‘The Hubris Hazard, and how to avoid it’ (Routledge), and ‘Trust your gut: Go with your intuition and make better choices’ (Pearson Academic).

    The E-Mail address of Eugene Sadler-Smith is: [email protected]

    His website dedicated to the topic of Hubris is: www.thehubrishub.com

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    44 min
  • 11. Scenario Thinking and Leadership - Jeremy Bentham

    Scenario thinking enables organizations to establish possible visions of the future in the form of scenarios. This enables decision-makers to think through the different ways in which the environment of their institutions could evolve in the future, based on different sets of assumptions.
    One of the companies that is best known for its scenario-thinking activity is Shell.  For decades, Shell’s scenarios have supported the decision-making of Shell leaders, academics, governments, and businesses.

    Jeremy Bentham led this activity in Shell between 2006 and his retirement in 2022 as Shell Scenarios & strategy Leader and VP Global Business Environment.
    In this episode of the Leadership 2.0 podcast, I am interviewing Jeremy Bentham about scenario thinking and leadership.

    During our conversation, we discussed the following topics:

    1 What scenario thinking is and what is it not
    2 Why organizations should invest in scenario thinking
    3 The development of scenario thinking in the past decades
    4 The reason for Shell to start sharing (parts of) its scenarios with external stakeholders
    5 The importance of engagement
    6 Why and how scenario thinking could lead to wiser decisions
    7 Strategic character
    8 The possible role of scenario thinking in addressing crises our society faces
    9 The Dodo club (recently established by Jeremy)
    10 Final thoughts on the topic of scenario thinking

    About Jeremy Bentham

    Jeremy Bentham has a Degree in Physics from the University of Oxford and a Master's Degree in Management from the MIT Sloan School of Management.

    From 1980 - 2022 he worked for Shell in various roles and functions, including as Chief Executive for Shell Hydrogen, and later as Shell Scenarios & strategy Leader and VP Global Business Environment, in charge of developing forward-looking scenarios to support strategic thinking and direction-setting.

    Currently, Jeremy is Co-Chair (scenarios) & Senior Advisor for the World Energy Council, as well as being involved in several other organizations in the climate and sustainable development space, including the World Business Council for Sustainable Development (WBCSD), Illuminem, Pathfinder International, and the Mission Possible Partnership. 

    Additionally, he is a Senior Advisor for the Boston Consulting Group (BCG).

    His interests include theater production, cinema, and art history.

    The Dodo Club

    Recently, Jeremy started a regular newsletter and vehicle for discussion and community building called 'the Dodo club. The purpose of this club is to help people and organizations make wiser decisions in the face of the radical uncertainties they are facing, including when grappling with issues of decarbonisation and energy transitions.

    You can find this club, and sign up for the Newsletter at [https://thedodoclub.beehiiv.com/]

    The E-Mail address of Jeremy Bentham is: [email protected]

    Additional resources:

    Jeremy Bentham: Decarbonisation Scenarios (youtube.com)

    Jeremy Bentham: The energy transition (post Illuminem)

    40 Years of Shell Scenarios

    Scenarios: An explorers guide

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    58 min
  • 10. From Crisis to Innovation: A Mental Health Entrepreneur's Journey - Vlad Gheorghiu

    In this episode, I am interviewing Vlad Gheorghiu about mental health in the workplace, a highly relevant topic.

    Why? 

    The World Health Organization estimates that 12 billion working days are lost every year due to depression and anxiety. This costs $1 trillion in lost productivity.

    McKinsey research showed that ‘60 % of employees have experienced at least one mental-health challenge at some point in their lives’. According to the same study ‘Failing to address the effects of mental health and well-being challenges is a missed opportunity for employers’.

    Employees dealing with mental health issues are 4x more likely to say they intend to leave, 3x more likely to report low job satisfaction, 3x more likely to experience toxic workplace behavior, and 2x more likely to report low engagement.

    At the same time, classic Employee Assistance Programs do not seem to work…

    Vlad Gheorghiu experienced mental health issues firsthand, whilst working for McKinsey. 

    This experience inspired him to design solutions. First for McKinsey, and later by co-finding a start-up company called Kyan Health.

    In our conversation, we covered the following topics

    1. Vlad's background
    2. Vlad's engagement with mental health
    3. The gap in the workplace between the mental health support employees need and receive
    4. The concept of Kyan Health
    5. Measuring impact
    6. Creating a start-up company: Three Dos
    7. Creating a start-up company: Three Dont's
    8. Vlad's role models as an entrepreneur

    Finally, we also talk about his personal experiences as an entrepreneur and co-founder of a start-up.

    Vlad’s email address is:  [email protected] 

    Website KyanHealth: www.kyanhealth.com

    Links to relevant (McKinsey) reports:

    https://www.mckinsey.com/mhi/our-insights/present-company-included-prioritizing-mental-health-and-well-being-for-all

    https://www.mckinsey.com/~/media/mckinsey/business%20functions/people%20and%20organizational%20performance/our%20insights/the%20state%20of%20organizations%202023/the-state-of-organizations-2023.pdf

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    28 min
  • 9. Hubristic Leadership - Eugene Sadler-Smith

    In this episode, I am interviewing Eugene Sadler-Smith about hubristic leadership. A highly relevant topic in the light of the corporate scandals we faced in the last two decades, as well as the current geo-political tensions we are seeing around us. 

    None of these would have happened without hubristic leaders.

    During our conversation, Eugene and I discussed the following topics:

    03:00 The meaning of hubris
    05:05 Examples of hubristic leaders in politics and business
    11:00 The origins of hubris: nature and/or nurture?
    14:57 Do we co-create hubristic leaders?
    20:26 Recognizing hubristic leaders by the language they use
    27.57 How can teams become hubristic
    33:06 Eugene's new book: 'The Hubris Hazard'
    38:08 The role of HR and Leadership Development professionals
    40:03 Does hubris also have a bright side? 


    Eugene Sadler Smith is a Professor of Organizational Behaviour at the Surrey Business School. His research interests include hubris (in leadership, business, and politics) and intuition (in decision-making and creativity). 

    He published over 100 articles in peer-reviewed journals, and his research has featured on BBC Radio 4, BBC Local Radio, Sky TV, The Insight Channel, The Times, The Guardian, and others. 

    Eugene worked on research and executive education projects with, amongst others, Tesco, Mind Gym, ICSA, CIPD, Met Police, Surrey Police, Welsh Government, Forbes, Home Office and the Scottish Government.

    He has written a number of books: Learning and Development for Managers (Blackwell, 2006); Inside Intuition (Routledge, 2008); The Intuitive Mind (John Wiley and Sons, 2010, translated into Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, and Russian); Hubristic Leadership (with a Foreword by Lord David Owen, SAGE, 2018); Human Resource Development: From Theory into Practice (SAGE, 2022), and ‘Intuition in Business’ (Oxford University Press in 2023).

    In the next coming months two new books by his hand will be published ‘The Hubris Hazard, and how to avoid it’ (Routledge), and ‘Trust your gut: Go with your intuition and make better choices’ (Pearson Academic).

    The E-Mail address of Eugene Sadler-Smith is: [email protected]

    His website dedicated to the topic of Hubris is: www.thehubrishub.com



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    46 min
  • 8. A Scientific Perspective on Leadership Development - Ayse Yemiscigil

    Everyone is an expert in leadership development, or at least has an option about it! 

    For this reason, I decided to interview Professor Ayse Yemiscigil.

    Ayse Yemiscigil, Ph.D., is an Assistant Professor of Organizational Behavior at Fordham University’s Gabelli School of Business and a Research Affiliate with the Human Flourishing Program at Harvard University. 

    In February 2023, she, Dana Born, and Horace Ling, published an article for HBR.org of the Harvard Business Review titled: 'What Makes Leadership Development Programs Succeed?' 

    In their article, they argue that global organizations spend, on an annual basis, more than $60 billion on leadership development programs, but that it is hard to establish the ROI of these programs.

    During my conversation with Ayse we discussed the following topics:

    1 Why most investments in Leadership Development programs fail

    2 The format of Leadership Development programs

    3 The content of Leadership Development programs

    4 The ‘whole person’ approach

    5 Whether knowledge building on business topics should be included in Leadership Development programs

    6 The long-term impact (or not) of Leadership Development Programs

    7 How to measure the impact of Leadership Development programs

    8 Stimulating the self-reflection of (potential) leaders

    About Ayse Yemiscigil:

    Ayse Yemiscigil, Ph.D., is an Assistant Professor of Organizational Behavior at Fordham University’s Gabelli School of Business and a Research Affiliate with the Human Flourishing Program at Harvard University. She received her Ph.D. from Warwick Business School and has been a postdoctoral research fellow at The Human Flourishing Program at Harvard University and Harvard Kennedy School’s Center for Public Leadership. 

    Professor Yemiscigil’s research brings a humanistic lens to leadership development and management. Using an interdisciplinary approach, she studies how leaders cultivate humanistic ideals such as flourishing and well-being, meaning, purpose, and authenticity in themselves, organizations, and the broader society. 

    Drawing from her interdisciplinary background in behavioral science, economics, and management, Professor Yemiscigil’s research focuses specifically on the social-economic barriers and support factors that are contextual and modifiable which may impact the humanistic development of leaders and organizational communities. She applies advanced quantitative methods to large-scale, longitudinal data and conducts natural field experiments in multi-country settings and organizations. 

    Her research has been published in leading academic journals, including Psychological Science, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, and Harvard Business Review, and featured in the New York Times, Washington Post, and Wall Street Journal among other media outlets. 

    Professor Yemiscigil teaches humanistic management and leadership development and has been recognized for distinguished teaching performance by the Harvard Division of Continuing Education. She is a research consultant to multiple organizations including the Core Leadership Institute and Heart Mind Design. 

    She holds a master’s degree in behavioral and economic sciences from Warwick University, UK, and a bachelor’s degree in economics and business administration from Koc University, Turkey.

    The E-Mail address of Professor Yemiscigil is : [email protected]

    The article ‘What Makes Leadership Development Programs Succeed?’ 
    by Ayse Yemiscigil, Dana Born, and Horace Ling’ can be found here: https://hbr.org/2023/02/what-makes-leadership-development-programs-succeed

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    30 min
  • 7. The Five-Factor Personality Model and the Numinous - Ralph Piedmont

    Current thinking in Psychology is that there are five dimensions we can use to describe the most important personality dimensions. Dr. Ralph Piedmont discovered the 6th one: 'the Numinous'.

    The five-factor model of personality (FFM) is a set of five broad trait dimensions or domains, often referred to as the “Big Five”: Extraversion, Agreeableness, Conscientiousness, Neuroticism (sometimes named by its polar opposite, Emotional Stability), and Openness to Experience (sometimes named Intellect). 
    The Big Five/FFM was developed to represent as much of the variability in individuals’ personalities as possible, using only a small set of trait dimensions. 
    Many personality psychologists agree that its five domains capture the most important, basic individual differences in personality traits and that many alternative trait models can be conceptualized in terms of the Big Five/FFM structure (www.oxfordbibliographies.com). 

    Dr. Ralph Piedmont discovered the 6th factor: the Numinous. According to Ralph Piedmont 'the numinous deals with our ultimate existential engagements with life. The Numinous has three central concerns: issues about mortality; meaning in life, and personal worthiness.'
    (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/364950266_An_Introduction_to_the_Numinous_1_An_Introduction_to_the_Sixth_Major_Dimension_of_Personality_The_Numinous)

    During our conversation, we discussed the following topics:

    (1) 01:58 - The origins of the Five-Factor personality model 
    (2) 08:08 - The Five-Factor personality model versus adopting a growth mindset
    (3) 15: 26 - Dark Triads
    (4) 17:12 - What is the Numinous?
    (5) 25:00 - The relevance of the Numinous for agnostics and atheists
    (6) 26:19 - Practical implications of the Numinous
    (7) 33:00 - Applications of the Numinous in the world of business
    (8) 41:37 - Leadership development and the Numinous
    (9) 50:50 - Dysfunctional leadership behavior and the Numinous
    (10) 57:50 From the "Big 5" to the "Big 6"? The future of the Numinous

    Dr. Piedmont received his Ph.D. in Personality Psychology from Boston University. He completed a postdoctoral fellowship at the National Institute on Aging, where he was trained in taxonomic models of personality and their relevance for understanding mental and physical outcomes. 

    Dr. Piedmont was a full professor in the Department of Pastoral Counseling at Loyola University Maryland and is now the Managing Director of the Center for Professional Studies. 

    His current research interests focus on the measurement of Spiritual Transcendence, a construct that represents a broad, nondenominational, motivational measure of spirituality. He has demonstrated the predictive value of this construct in both normal and clinical contexts, using both American and cross-cultural samples. 

    Dr. Piedmont is extensively published in the scientific literature and is on the editorial boards for Measurement and Evaluation in Counseling and Development, Assessment, and Journal of Personality Assessment. 

    He was the founding editor of the new APA journal, Psychology of Religion and Spirituality. He is a fellow of the American Psychological Association and a member of the American Counseling Association (ACA). He is also very much involved in Division 36, the Society for the Psychology of Religion and Spirituality for the APA and ACA’s Association for Spiritual, Ethical, and Religious Values in Counseling.

    E-mail dr. Ralph Piedmont: [email protected]
    Website: https://centerforprofessionalstudies.com/

    Publications: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=bJTbCUIAAAAJ&hl=en

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    1 hr 4 min
  • 6. Leadership & Reputation Management - Matt Nixon

    'The real problem of humanity is the following: we have Paleolithic emotions, medieval institutions, and god-like technology'. 

    With this quote from Edward O. Wilson,  Matt Nixon answered my question if our requirements about leadership have changed in the last decades. 

    Matt Nixon has more than 30 years of experience as a management consultant and HR executive, working with CEOs and senior leaders around the world. An Oxford classics graduate, he was a partner in Towers Perrin in Chicago and London, and subsequently held the positions of Global Head of Organization Effectiveness for Royal Dutch Shell, and Managing Director, Group Head of Talent for Barclays, before returning to the consulting industry.

    Nowadays Matt works as a partner in a specialized consulting boutique where he coaches and advises CEOs and other senior leaders during career transitions and other periods of change and transition.

    Matt has written and taught extensively on hubris in executives.

    During our conversation, Matt and I discussed the following topics:

    • Have the demands on senior leaders changed in the past couple of decades?
    • How can senior leaders stay relevant and deal with the changing nature of their roles? 
    • What makes a successful executive an effective supervisory board member? 
    • The reputational life-cycle Matt describes in his book 'Pariahs – Hubris, Reputation and Organizational Crises' 
    • How top leaders could prevent their organization from landing in the Hubris state
    • Should leaders who find themselves in the middle of a corporate scandal stay or go?
    • Should companies take a stand on political issues (e.g. Human rights, Immigration, Ukraine)
    • Should coaches proactively force issues on their senior clients?

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    47 min
  • 5. Change Management : Creating Deep & Sustainable Behavioral Change - Arend Ardon

    In this episode of the Leadership 2.0 podcast, I am interviewing Arend Ardon about how leaders can create deep, and sustainable behavioral change in their organizations.

    Arend Ardon (1967) is a management consultant and co-founder and co-owner of the Change Studio, a consultancy firm specializing in change management. 

    He is a leading thinker in this area and has published dozens of articles and books.

    During our conversation, I asked Arend questions about the following topics:

    - Why Arend decided to become a management consultant

    - To what he contributes his success in implementing changes in large organizations, despite never having worked as a leader in such an environment

    - His fascination for change and change management

    - Why we, in the context of change, need to adapt a different paradigm than thinking in terms of initiating leaders on the one hand, and reactive and dependent employees on the other.

    -  Why leaders and experts should reflect on their own role in change processes

    - Why and how leaders should release control if they want to make things happen

     -  ‘Creating a sense of belonging’ versus 'Burning platforms' to drive change management

    - What the undertow in organizations is, and why leaders should pay attention to this

    - Why Arend decided to pursue a PhD study

    - Arend's drive for writing

    - Why Arend decided to establish his own consulting firm (The Change Studio)

    - The type of clients that are attracted by the Change Studio

    - The profile of the consultants that work for the change studio

    - Why Arend Still makes the time available to lecture at universities

    Information about Arend's work:

    Arends' book Doorbreek de cirkel! has meanwhile sold more than 30,000 copies and was recently also published in English (Break the Cycle!). Other books include Ontketen vernieuwing! (which translates as ‘Unleash innovation’) and, more recently, with Cynthia van der Zwan, ‘Wat speelt hier? Laat de onderstroom spreken (which translates as: ‘What is going on here? Listen to the undertow’). All books have become best-sellers in the Netherlands.

    In partnership with GoodHabitz, Arend developed the online Change & Innovation course, especially for use on smartphones and tablets. The course offers lots of video content, interactive tests, and a vast library of further reading (http://bit.ly/2qLlDr0).

    Relevant contact details and links:

    Arend can be reached at: [email protected]

    The website of the Change Studio: https://www.thechangestudio.nl/?lang=en

    Arend's PhD Thesis "Moving moments" can be downloaded here: https://research.vu.nl/ws/portalfiles/portal/42174484/complete+dissertation.pdf


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    47 min

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