In this episode, Kimb and Joshua explorewhat leadership really means—beyond the job title. From personal stories and shifting spiritual seasons to business dynamics and social influence, they challenge conventional definitions and ask deeper questions: Is a leader someone with a title, or someone you’re actually willing to follow? Can you lead without followers? Can influence be mistaken for leadership? And what makes someone worthy of being followed?

This conversation peels back the layers onleadership—spanning from faith journeys to failed business attempts—and reflects on the cost, nuance, and power of real, lived leadership. If you’ve ever found yourself wondering what qualifies someone as a leader (or questioning your own leadership journey), this one’s for you.

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