Leadership in crisis isn’t about having all the answers — it’s about building trust when certainty is gone.
In this episode of Leadership Rewired, Allison Allen explores what great leaders actually do during moments of crisis, disruption, and uncertainty — and why timeless leadership principles matter more than ever in today’s AI-driven, fast-changing world.
Joined by Ken Fogarty, CEO of Dale Carnegie of Nevada and U.S. Navy veteran, this conversation looks at leadership through the lens of history, psychology, and real-world experience. From global disruption to organizational change, Allison and Ken unpack how trust is built through behavior, presence, and human connection — not authority or control.
This episode is for leaders navigating:
→ Crisis and uncertainty
→ Rapid organizational change
→ AI disruption and hybrid work
→ Declining trust and engagement
→ Emotional fatigue at the executive level
You’ll learn:
→ Why trust is the real leadership currency in crisis
→ What history teaches us about leadership under pressure
→ How great leaders build credibility when the future is unclear
→ Why human-centered leadership still wins — even as technology accelerates
Chapters
00:00 Leadership in Crisis: Why Trust Matters Most
01:45 What History Teaches Us About Leadership Under Pressure
05:10 Why Trust Is Built Through Behavior, Not Titles
09:20 Leadership Lessons from Times of Chaos
13:30 Human-Centered Leadership in an AI-Driven World
18:10 Why Listening Builds Credibility Faster Than Authority
22:45 Psychological Safety and Trust in Uncertain Times
27:30 What Great Leaders Actually Do When the Future Is Unclear
32:10 Final Reflections: Leadership Is Still Human
Because technology evolves.
But leadership is still human.
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🌐 Dale Carnegie of Nevada: https://www.dalecarnegie.com/en/locations/nevada
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