What does it actually mean to lead from the inside out? In this episode, Jennifer Halsall sits down with executive coach Martina Buchal and leader and entrepreneur Susanne De Schepper for an honest, heartfelt conversation about the courage it takes to pause, get to know yourself, and ask for help — especially when the world is rewarding you for never slowing down.

Together they unpack the real difference between therapy, mentorship and coaching, why so many high-achieving women wait too long to invest in themselves, and what it looks like to trade the armor of performance for something far more powerful — genuine self-awareness.

This is not a conversation about hustle. It is a conversation about wholeness. About leading from your compass, not someone else's map. About the radical act of putting your own mask on first.

Whether you are a seasoned executive, a multi-hatted entrepreneur, or someone quietly wondering if there is a better way to do this — this episode will meet you exactly where you are.

Plus, Martina shares what she is bringing to the FIBO Women's Leadership Summit on April 17th - and why the most meaningful connections rarely happen in a networking room.

You do not have to have all the answers. You just have to be willing to show up.

Find Martina here:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/martinabuchal/

More info on the Women's Summit:

https://www.wearethecollective.world/fibo-womens-leadership-summit-programme