Leading PreSales | The Solution Engineering Leadership Show

Leading PreSales | The Solution Engineering Leadership Show

By Jan-Erik Jank & Tim BrömmeBusinessCareersManagement
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Leading PreSales | The Solution Engineering Leadership Show episodes

  • The Training That Made Me Quit [73]
    Enablement changes what your team believes selling is -- and that has a price tag

    Nate tells the story of a value-selling programme that permanently changed how he thought about price -- and why, three years later, it was the reason he left the company. He and Ava dig into how to design enablement around a real business model shift, and what has to change around it afterwards.

    What Nate and Ava discuss
    • Why enablement should be built around the business model shift you're actually making, not generic sales skills
    • Spacing beats intensity: two short blocks four weeks apart, with real wreckage to discuss in between
    • What happens when you upgrade what people believe and leave pricing, comp and deal reviews untouched
    • The move

      Before you sign off on any enablement, name the one thing in your operating system that has to change to match it -- and put a date on it. Then say that date out loud to the team.

      🔗 Resources & Links: paths.to/presales

      📅 Book a Discovery Call: calendly.com/serockstars-tim/discovery-call

      7 min
    • Hire the Second Version, Not the First [72]
      Why the best interview signal is what a candidate does with your feedback

      Nate rebuilt his interview loop so candidates present a case study twice — once as a coached dry run, once for the panel — and the score is the difference between the two. Ava pushes back on the risk of rewarding mimicry, and they land on a two-question scorecard.

      What Nate and Ava discuss
      • Building a coached dry run into the loop and judging version two, not version one
      • Why the hiring manager should read CVs and run a 60–90 minute first conversation
      • Ava's pushback: does coaching reward mimicry over independent judgment?
      • The move

        On your next opening, split the case study into two sittings — a coached dry run with one person, then the panel a week later. Score two things: what actually changed, and whether they made the change their own.

        🔗 Resources & Links: paths.to/presales

        📅 Book a Discovery Call: calendly.com/serockstars-tim/discovery-call

        6 min
      • Retire The Technical Win Trophy [71]
        Why celebrating the technical win teaches your SEs to quit right before the deal closes

        Ava noticed her team throwing a party at the technical win and going quiet for the six weeks that actually decide the deal. She and Nate argue about whether the metric should stay, and land on what presales owes the deal after the POC is signed off.

        What Nate and Ava discuss
        • Why 'technical win' really means 'still one of three vendors'
        • Keeping the metric as a market signal without the trophy mindset
        • The one question every SE should ask their AE in the contract phase
        • The move

          Redefine technical win as a checkpoint, not a finish line, and write down two named presales activities that happen after it — then have your SE ask the AE what would help get it over the line.

          🚀 Join the PreSales Leadership Community: serockstars.com/community

          🔗 Resources & Links: paths.to/presales

          7 min
        • Never Lie, Never Answer Reflexively [70]
          Why your team needs a written red line before the next late-stage question catalog

          Ava noticed her SEs improvising under closing pressure — over-explaining, over-promising, or freezing. She and Nate work out the norm that fixes it: never lie, but never answer an unqualified question reflexively either.

          What Nate and Ava discuss
          • Why the reflex answer is more dangerous than the hard question
          • Teaching the step-back question as the team's default move
          • What to do when an AE bends the truth in front of the customer
          • The move

            Write two lines your team can recite: we don't lie, and we don't answer a question we haven't understood. Then run one deal review per month where the only topic is what got promised.

            🚀 Join the PreSales Leadership Community: serockstars.com/community

            🔗 Resources & Links: paths.to/presales

            6 min
          • Stop Begging For Headcount [69]
            Why the SE ratio debate is a qualification problem, not a staffing problem

            Ava asked her CRO for three more SEs and got one question back: prove the twelve you have are on the right deals. She rebuilt the ask as a capacity model — and found one AE eating 38% of her team's hours.

            What Nate and Ava discuss
            • The embarrassingly simple way to instrument presales consumption per AE
            • Where a win-probability gate breaks down in long enterprise cycles
            • Finding capacity without hiring: lighter first demos and AE-led first calls
            • The move

              Instrument presales consumption per AE for one quarter — one CRM field, four effort buckets. Then open a standing quarterly capacity review with your sales leader with a reallocation proposal, not a complaint.

              🚀 Join the PreSales Leadership Community: serockstars.com/community

              🔗 Resources & Links: paths.to/presales

              7 min
            • When the ICP Moves, PreSales Pays the Bill [68]
              Build your second ICP before the board slide lands, not after pipeline collapses

              A one-line strategy slide can redirect an entire go-to-market motion, but the retraining, domain language and demo assets all land on the SE leader. Nate argues for naming a second ICP as insurance long before anyone asks for it, and Ava pressure-tests whether a twelve-person team can afford that hedge.

              What Nate and Ava discuss
              • Why the decision takes an afternoon and the go-to-market consequence takes four quarters
              • Domain depth as the real cost driver — some switches are cheap, deep vertical expertise doesn't transfer
              • Re-messaging toward margin buys time; a second ICP with real deals behind it buys survival
              • The move

                Name your second ICP now, assign two SEs to it, and run one live deal a quarter in that segment even when it's a stretch. After every call, write down the words your team didn't understand — that list is your enablement plan.

                🚀 Join the PreSales Leadership Community: serockstars.com/community

                🔗 Resources & Links: paths.to/presales

                7 min
              • Your CRO No Longer Wants a PreSales Department [67]
                Why defending the pre/post boundary is the fastest way to look obsolete

                Nate's CRO used the word "PreSales" once in a forty-minute quarterly review — to ask why the team is still called that. He and Ava dig into why the pre/post split is an artefact of an older business model, and what to propose before someone proposes it for you.

                What Nate and Ava discuss
                • Why SaaS growth from renewals, upsell and cross-sell makes the pre/post boundary an org-chart leftover
                • The ninety-day pilot one of Nate's SE Directors ran after go-live — and Ava's pushback on comp plans and attribution
                • Why the Forward Deployed Engineer wave is an old answer to an old question, and why titles matter less than you think
                • The move

                  Put the question on the table yourself: where else in the customer lifecycle does our skill set create the most contribution? Then bring a narrow pilot — one lifecycle moment, ninety days, one number you report back.

                  🚀 Join the PreSales Leadership Community: serockstars.com/community

                  🔗 Resources & Links: paths.to/presales

                  6 min
                • Return on Token: Who Owns the Hours AI Gives Back [66]
                  Your CFO hands you an AI efficiency target. Now decide what the freed hours buy.

                  Nate gets handed a fifteen percent AI efficiency target with no definition attached, and watches his regions buy eleven tools instead of creating capacity. He and Ava work out how to name the output of reclaimed hours before a single licence gets signed.

                  What Nate and Ava discuss
                  • Why one narrow use case per role beats a broad AI program — time-to-demo for SEs, meeting write-ups for AEs
                  • Return on Token: pricing the learning curve, process rework and overlapping tools, not just licence fees
                  • Central ownership at 200 SEs versus a named twenty percent role at twelve — and how to measure quality, not just speed
                  • The move

                    Pick one admin task per role, target twenty to thirty percent of that time, and write down what the freed hours buy before you buy the tool. Put a date on it — one quarter — and cancel if the hours went nowhere.

                    🚀 Join the PreSales Leadership Community: serockstars.com/community

                    🔗 Resources & Links: paths.to/presales

                    7 min
                  • Your AI Policy Is a Competitive Disadvantage [65]
                    Why blanket AI bans quietly cost you deals — and who should own go-to-market AI

                    Ava comes back from a GTM leadership dinner where almost nobody knew the new AI labeling rules — and where one leader used AI as a sparring partner while another had ten agents calling prospects. She and Nate argue about blanket transcription bans, who should own AI for the revenue org, and where corporate brakes actually earn their keep.

                    What Nate and Ava discuss
                    • Why 'we're not allowed to transcribe calls' is usually a missing job description, not a legal wall
                    • Why go-to-market AI needs its own owner instead of a paragraph in someone else's strategy
                    • Where Nate defends the brakes: an invented contract section that customer procurement caught first
                    • The move

                      Write a one-page AI position for your own department: allowed by default, allowed with human review, blocked with a named reason and a review date. Then put the blocked list back in front of legal on that date and make them say no again in writing.

                      🚀 Join the PreSales Leadership Community: serockstars.com/community

                      🔗 Resources & Links: paths.to/presales

                      7 min
                    • ROI on Token: Stop Rewarding AI Usage [64]
                      Why token dashboards are the new vanity metric — and where the reclaimed hours actually go

                      Ava ran an AI session with her twelve SEs and discovered they'd built plenty — but nobody could say what they did with the time they saved. She and Nate dig into why usage metrics feel like progress, and how to make outcomes the thing you actually measure.

                      What Nate and Ava discuss
                      • Token leaderboards and usage-linked comp: the SDR activity mistake with a new coat of paint
                      • When usage IS a legitimate early signal — and the ninety-day expiry date it needs
                      • Why reclaimed capacity vanishes into more building unless a leader names where it goes
                      • The move

                        For every AI workflow your team adopts, write two lines before they start: what outcome this produces, and where the reclaimed hours go. If the second line is empty, it's a hobby, not a business case.

                        🚀 Join the PreSales Leadership Community: serockstars.com/community

                        🔗 Resources & Links: paths.to/presales

                        7 min

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