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November 09The Practical Guide for Ministering to Single Adults | An Interview with Logan Steele and Ally Skinner
Ally Skinner and Logan Steele, the creators of The Single Adult Podcast, explore the experiences of single adults within the Latter-day Saint community. They discuss the complexities of being single in a marriage-focused culture and emphasize the importance of understanding and supporting single members.
Allyson Skinner is an office manager, sewing instructor, and alterations specialist. A convert who joined the Church as a youth, Ally has navigated much of her adult life—and raised two children—as a single parent. Drawing from her lived experiences through marriage, divorce, and years on her own, she brings deep empathy, honesty, and warmth to ministering to those sitting alone at church.
Logan Steele was raised in Glendale, Arizona, and his professional journey began in New York on the Late Show with David Letterman, followed by producing major television staples including Who Wants to Be a Millionaire and The Apprentice. Today, he manages broadcasts for the Church Priesthood and Family Department and oversees the Scriptures video series. On The Single Adult Podcast, Logan focuses on bridging the gap between Church leadership and single members, emphasizing meaningful service stewardships and individual covenant-keeping over marital status.
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The Single Adult Podcast
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Highlights
00:04:18 – The Origin of the Podcast Idea
00:05:44 – Goals and Focus of the Podcast
00:06:44 – The Importance of Understanding Single Adults
00:08:44 – Labels and Their Impact on Single Adults
00:10:04 – The Role of Wards and Activities
00:12:01 – The Need for Inclusivity in Callings
00:13:11 – Personal Experiences of Being Single
00:16:22 – Individual Stories of Allie and Logan
00:18:16 – The Concept of Being Alone
00:20:26 – The Importance of Inclusion in Church
00:22:09 – Finding Purpose as a Single Adult
00:24:02 – The Role of Leaders in Supporting Singles
00:26:48 – Navigating Offense and Understanding
00:29:05 – The Importance of Hope in the Gospel
00:31:30 – Trusting God’s Timing
00:33:04 – Broadening Perspectives on Single Adults
00:35:17 – The Need for Open Conversations
00:37:18 – The Role of the Gospel for All
00:39:06 – The Importance of Individual Journeys
00:41:18 – The Growing Momentum for Single Adult Issues
Key Insights
Diverse Experiences: The podcast aims to address the varied experiences of single adults, acknowledging that many members of the church are single due to various circumstances, including divorce, widowhood, or never marrying.
Hope and Purpose: Allie and Logan emphasize finding hope and purpose in the gospel, regardless of marital status. They encourage listeners to focus on personal discipleship and the importance of maintaining a relationship with Jesus Christ.
Community Engagement: The hosts highlight the need for single adults to feel included in church activities and leadership roles, stressing that many callings do not require marriage.
Avoiding Assumptions: Leaders should avoid making assumptions about single adults’ needs and experiences. Open communication and asking questions can foster understanding and support.
Navigating Loneliness: The discussion touches on the feelings of loneliness that can accompany being single, with Allie sharing her proactive approach to include others and create connections within the church community.
Leadership Applications
Inclusive Callings: Leaders should consider calling single adults to various leadership positions, as most church roles do not require marriage. This inclusion can empower single members and enrich the congregation.
Fostering Dialogue: Leaders can create opportunities for open discussions about the experiences of single adults, helping to bridge gaps in understanding and support within the ward.
Encouraging Personal Growth: Leaders should encourage single members to focus on their personal spiritual journeys and contributions to the church, reinforcing that their worth and potential are not defined by marital status.

The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org.
Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes.
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1 hr 1 min
November 01 Does the Lord Ever Condemn Us? | A Conversation with Breck Wightman
When a woman taken in adultery—a capital crime under Mosaic law—was brought before the Savior, He didn’t condemn her. He said, “Go, and sin no more.” Why? BYU professor Breck Wightman joins us to explore how the Lord really responds to our sins, and why it may be different than you think.
Breck Wightman is an Assistant Professor in the Romney Institute of Public Service and Ethics at Brigham Young University, where he teaches human resource management, economics, and public policy in the MPA program. His research focuses on leadership, succession, hiring, and person-organization fit. In addition to his academic work, he owns a speaking and training company and is a regular presenter at BYU Education Week.
Within the Church, Breck recently completed his service in a bishopric and currently serves on his stake high council.
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Breck Wightman’s PowerPoint Slides
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Highlights
In this conversation, Breck outlines a scriptural framework distinguishing willful rebellion and hypocrisy from mortal weakness, explaining how understanding divine mercy transforms personal discipleship and ecclesiastical leadership.
00:04:28 – Formulating the Topic: How God Responds to Weakness
00:05:22 – Scriptural Episode: The Woman Taken in Adultery
00:10:32 – Understanding Sin and Its Consequences
00:11:25 – Defining Sin: Law and Knowledge
00:12:32 – Accountability and Covenant Relationships
00:16:07 – The Nature of Weakness vs. Rebellion
00:22:10 – Exploring Rebellion: Active vs. Passive
00:25:33 – Consequences of Rebellion
00:26:04 – Sons of Perdition: The Worst Form of Rebellion
00:30:01 – The Complexity of Sin and Stigma
00:33:13 – Understanding Hypocrisy in Actions
00:40:05 – The Nature of Weakness and Its Implications
00:44:28 – The Lord’s Perspective on Weakness vs. Rebellion
Key Insights
Types of Sin: The discussion emphasizes that not all sins are equal. Sin can be categorized into rebellion, hypocrisy, and weakness, each eliciting different responses from God.
Rebellion vs. Weakness: Rebellion involves a willful rejection of God’s commandments, while weakness reflects a sincere desire to do good but falling short due to human limitations. God responds to rebellion with consequences, whereas He approaches weakness with mercy.
Intentions Matter: The motivations behind actions are crucial. Good actions with bad intentions lead to hypocrisy, while bad actions with good intentions indicate weakness. Understanding this distinction can help individuals and leaders navigate their spiritual journeys.
Scriptural Examples: The episode references the story of the woman taken in adultery to illustrate how Jesus showed mercy to those who struggle with weakness, contrasting this with His condemnation of the hypocritical Pharisees.
Grace and Accountability: The conversation highlights that accountability increases with knowledge of the law, but God’s grace allows for growth and learning over time. Leaders should recognize that individuals may be in different stages of understanding and repentance.
Leadership Applications
Fostering Compassion: Latter-day Saint leaders can cultivate a compassionate environment by recognizing the difference between weakness and rebellion in their congregants, offering support rather than condemnation.
Encouraging Open Dialogue: Leaders should create spaces for honest discussions about struggles with sin, allowing members to express their weaknesses without fear of judgment, thereby promoting healing and growth.
Tailoring Responses: Understanding the nuances of sin can help leaders tailor their counsel and support to meet the specific needs of individuals, focusing on mercy and encouragement rather than strict punitive measures.
The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org.
Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes.
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1 hr 4 min
October 26Transform Sacrament Meeting with a Youth Focus | An Interview with Todd Hillyard
Todd Hillyard shares practical ideas his ward has used to increase youth engagement in sacrament meeting. He discusses how youth feedback reframed his ward’s approach to sacrament meeting, including shorter talks, youth-focused speaker assignments, auxiliary-centered Sundays, and meaningful ways to involve young women and young men in ushering, music, prelude, organ, and testimony sharing.
Todd currently serves as a bishop in Washington, having previously served in Young Men presidencies, on the high council, and in bishoprics. A pediatric dentist for 25 years and founder of Adventure Dental, he works with children and youth all day with a specialized focus on airway health—helping kids sleep better and thrive through nose breathing. Todd completed his undergraduate studies at Brigham Young University, earned his dental degree at the University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio, and completed his postgraduate pediatric dental specialty at UCLA.
Outside of his practice, Todd considers his most profound accomplishment and life calling to be a father to his 18-year-old son, who is non-verbal and has Phelan-McDermid syndrome. Navigating both the deep challenges and fulfilling joys of special-needs parenting has molded him in ways he never imagined, deepening the empathy and heart he brings to ministering to young people. On a lighter note, Todd loves to dance and performs with the “Daddy-O’s,” a crew of about a dozen middle-aged men attempting hip-hop routines under the coaching and choreography of his 15-year-old daughter.

Links
Stimulating Sunday School Discussion… But Not Too Much | An Interview with Julie Hillyard
Teaching Restored
www.adventuredental.com
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Highlights
00:03:18 – Youth Leadership in Sunday Worship
00:03:30 – Engaging Youth Feedback
00:04:53 – Demographics of the Ward
00:05:37 – Youth Feedback on Sacrament Meeting
00:06:52 – Gathering Youth Insights
00:07:30 – Implementing Changes Based on Feedback
00:08:18 – Prelude Music Initiative
00:10:23 – Variety in Prelude Music
00:12:00 – Prelude Timing and Structure
00:13:19 – Importance of Engaging Prelude Music
00:14:18 – Short Talks in Sacrament Meeting
00:15:26 – Eliminating Intermediate Hymns
00:16:18 – Impromptu Choirs
00:18:04 – Youth Leading Music
00:19:09 – Youth Empowerment in Leadership Roles
00:21:25 – Testimony Meeting Dynamics
00:22:15 – Shortening Talks for Engagement
00:23:56 – Youth-Led Sunday Meetings
00:25:38 – Encouraging Youth Testimonies
00:27:34 – Supporting Young Men in Sacrament
00:28:04 – Christmas Tradition with Missionaries
00:29:00 – Testimony Meeting Improvements
00:30:22 – Monthly Youth Leader Meetings
00:32:05 – Collaboration with Adult Leaders
00:33:41 – Engaging Stake Leaders
00:36:02 – Importance of Presiding in Meetings
00:37:07 – Colette’s Experience with Youth Feedback
Key Insights
Youth Engagement: Todd emphasizes the importance of involving youth in church meetings, encouraging them to share their thoughts on what makes sacrament meetings engaging and spiritually fulfilling.
Prelude Music: Implementing prelude music performed by youth has transformed the atmosphere of sacrament meetings, fostering reverence and engagement from the congregation.
Short Talks: Todd has shifted the focus from long, traditional talks to shorter, more impactful messages, allowing for multiple speakers and encouraging participation from youth.
Special Programs: The introduction of themed Sundays, such as Young Women’s Sunday, allows youth to take charge of the meeting, enhancing their sense of ownership and responsibility.
Testimony Meetings: Encouraging youth to bear their testimonies regularly has revitalized testimony meetings, making them more relevant and engaging for the entire congregation.
Collaboration with Stake Leaders: Todd actively communicates with stake leaders to ensure their messages resonate with youth, making sacrament meetings more relatable and engaging.
Leadership Applications:
Leadership Applications
Create Opportunities for Youth Leadership: Leaders can implement youth-led initiatives, such as music prelude or testimony meetings, to foster a sense of ownership and responsibility among young members.
Adapt Meeting Formats: By shortening talks and incorporating more musical numbers or youth-led discussions, leaders can create a more engaging and spiritually uplifting environment.
Encourage Open Dialogue: Leaders should seek feedback from youth about their experiences and preferences in church settings, allowing for adjustments that enhance participation and spiritual growth.

The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org.
Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes.
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49 min
October 24October Zion Lab Live: Conversations on Mental Health, Missionary Work, and More
The first Friday of each month in Zion Lab, Kurt Francom hosts a livestream where we review the latest happenings and conversations taking place in Zion Lab and across our online community.
In this Zion Lab Live, Kurt reviews recent community discussions from the Zion Lab platform, focusing on member missionary engagement, teaching culture, and church administration. Rather than conducting a traditional interview, Kurt highlights insights posted by community members around appointment cancellations and modern doctrinal framing. The central topic explores how local leaders can balance relational ministering with the deeper covenant commitments found in the restored gospel.
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Highlights
00:01:34 – Experience at Southern Virginia University
00:03:44 – Overview of Zion Lab Community
00:04:50 – Discussion on Mental Health and Therapy
00:05:45 – September Topics Recap
00:06:27 – Missionary Work Challenges
00:09:40 – Engaging Investigators in Lessons
00:11:08 – Discussion on Christolatry
00:15:03 – Balancing Grace and Accountability
00:20:06 – Importance of Covenants in Worship
Key Insights
Zion Lab as a Resource: Kurt highlights Zion Lab as a vital online community for Latter-day Saint leaders, offering resources, discussions, and live streams that enhance leadership skills and community engagement.
Missionary Work Challenges: A discussion centered on the difficulties missionaries face with appointment cancellations, suggesting that stronger relationships between members and investigators can improve commitment and attendance.
Cultural Considerations: The conversation acknowledges that cultural attitudes towards time and scheduling can impact appointment keeping, emphasizing the need for leaders to understand these differences.
Christolatry Concerns: Kurt raises the issue of “Christolatry,” where an overemphasis on Christ’s love may overshadow the call for personal growth and adherence to church teachings, suggesting a need for balance in messaging.
Generational Shifts in Teaching: There is a recognition of changing teaching styles and language within the church, with some members longing for a more balanced approach that includes both grace and accountability.
Leadership Applications
Fostering Relationships: Leaders can encourage members to actively engage with missionaries and investigators, helping to create a supportive environment that values personal connections and accountability.
Cultural Sensitivity: Understanding cultural differences can help leaders manage expectations and improve the effectiveness of missionary efforts, ensuring that appointments are respected and valued.
Balanced Messaging: Leaders should strive to communicate the importance of both Christ’s love and the necessity of personal growth, ensuring that teachings reflect the comprehensive nature of the restored gospel. This can help prevent misunderstandings and foster a deeper commitment to church principles.

The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org.
Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes.
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27 min
October 21The Leadership Shift Every Bishop Needs Now | An Interview with James Fletcher
James Fletcher is the founder and chief investment officer of Ethos Investment Management, and has been investing professionally in emerging markets for 20 years. He is also the founder of the global non-profit Young Investors Society, which provides lessons to teens on investing and financial literacy in over 3,000 high schools and 80 countries around the world. James has a bachelor’s degree in Finance from Brigham Young University and also teaches as a BYU adjunct professor in Finance. He has lived in a variety of places, from Boston to Brazil and Los Angeles to Hong Kong, and currently lives in Springville, Utah, with his wife and five children, where he serves as a bishop in the Hobble Creek Springville Utah Stake.

Links
The Bishopric & the Youth | A How I Lead Interview with James Fletcher
Young Investors Society: YIS.org
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Highlights
James talks about his experiences as a bishop in Mapleton, Utah, focusing on leadership principles that foster community and connection within the church. He discusses the importance of loving individuals as Christ did and the impact of engaging with both active and less-active members.
Key Insights
One-by-One Leadership: Emphasizing the inefficiencies of traditional leadership, James highlights the importance of personal connections and individualized attention, mirroring Christ’s approach to ministry.
Community Engagement: James discusses how his ward has shifted from church-centric activities to community-focused events, fostering relationships with all residents in the canyon, regardless of their church attendance.
Inviting Growth: He shares the success of involving youth as ward missionaries, allowing them to teach and engage with both members and non-members, which has led to increased participation and spiritual growth.
Exporting Strength: Leaders are encouraged to look beyond their immediate community and share their strengths and resources globally, exemplified by members in his ward who have initiated impactful projects in other countries.
Cultural Shift: The importance of creating a culture of belonging and love within the ward is emphasized, ensuring that everyone feels needed and valued, regardless of their church activity.
Leadership Applications
Foster Personal Connections: Latter-day Saint leaders can prioritize one-on-one interactions with members, ensuring that everyone feels seen and valued, which can lead to greater engagement and spiritual growth.
Community-Centric Activities: By organizing events that include the broader community, leaders can build relationships that extend beyond church walls, creating a more inclusive environment.
Empower Youth: Leaders can implement programs that allow youth to take on responsibilities, such as teaching or missionary work, which not only prepares them for future service but also strengthens the ward community.
00:02:53 – Building a Zion Community
00:04:26 – Christlike Leadership Principles
00:06:01 – Connecting with the Community
00:08:41 – The Importance of Love and Service
00:09:34 – Establishing a Culture of Belonging
00:12:39 – A Powerful Sacrament Meeting Experience
00:14:26 – The Role of Personal Visits
00:15:02 – Inviting Others to Serve
00:17:01 – Broadening the Net
00:21:01 – Proactive Ministering Efforts
00:22:48 – Daily Prayer for Individuals
00:24:37 – Community Connections
00:25:22 – Exporting Strength
00:31:04 – Inviting Youth to Grow
00:36:12 – The Inefficiency of Seeking the One
00:41:37 – The Healing Power of the Atonement

The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org.
Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes.
Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.
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46 min
September 26Second-Guessing Someone Else’s Revelation | An Interview with Christopher Blythe
Brigham Young University professor and religious folklorist Christopher Blythe discusses the nature of revelation, spiritual manifestations, and claims to mysticism within Latter-day Saint history and culture. The conversation examines how members and leaders can evaluate personal spiritual experiences, navigate claims of revelation that exceed proper authority, and guard against deceptive influences or speculative practices.
Dr. Christopher Blythe is an assistant professor of English at BYU, where he teaches courses on folklore, myth, and Latter-day Saint literature. He holds a PhD in American Religion from Florida State University, an MA in History from Utah State University, and a BA in Religious Studies from Utah State University. Professionally, Dr. Blythe has worked extensively as a religious folklorist and historian, including previous roles with the Joseph Smith Papers Project, the Church History Department, and as a research associate at the Neal A. Maxwell Institute for Religious Scholarship. He is also the author of Terrible Revolution: Latter-day Saints and the American Apocalypse, a study on millenarianism and lay visions in Church history.
As a convert who joined the Church at age 13, Dr. Blythe’s research centers on “vernacular religion”—exploring how everyday members live, share, and interpret their faith on the ground. Over the years, he has served in various Church callings, including as a missionary in West Virginia, a high priest group leader, and in various local leadership and teaching assignments. He resides in Utah with his family, where he also co-hosts online content exploring Latter-day Saint history and folklore.

Links
Dr. Blythe’s Lost Library
Angels and Seerstones
LDS Uncorrelated
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Highlights
00:03:00 – Dr. Christopher Blythe on Religious Folklore and Vernacular Religion
00:06:22 – Navigating Mysticism, Personal Stories, and Spiritual Trump Cards
00:09:18 – Calling Members, Priesthood Keys, and Avoiding Manipulation
00:17:11 – Cultural Misconceptions Around Foreordination and Pre-Existence
00:20:34 – Hiram Page, D&C 28, and the Order of Revelatory Authority
00:23:25 – Kirtland Manifestations, D&C 50 & 52, and Trying the Spirits
00:29:21 – Continuationism, Manifestations, and Modern Church History
00:35:16 – Discernment and Circles of Confidence in Sharing Personal Revelations
00:44:17 – Recognizing Divine Manifestations and the Baptism of Fire
00:47:10 – Cognitive Bias, Discomfort, and the Cost of Discipleship
00:54:02 – The 1913 Dream Mine First Presidency Statement on Speculation
01:02:37 – Offshoot Movements, Energy Healing, and Focusing on the Family
01:09:05 – Addressing Doubts, Questions, and Counterfeit Revelations
01:12:41 – Handbook Guidance on Energy Healing
Key Insights
Vernacular Religion & Interpretation: Official Church handbooks, scriptures, and doctrines provide structure, but “vernacular religion”—how individual members interpret and live their faith on the ground—shapes how spiritual experiences and calls are experienced day-to-day.
Hierarchy and Bounds of Revelation: Early Church history, such as the 1830 revelation regarding Hiram Page’s seer stone (D&C 28), established the fundamental principle that while all members are entitled to personal revelation for their own spheres, only the head of the Church receives revelation to direct the Church as a whole.
Trying the Spirits: Grounded in early revelations (such as D&C 50 and 52), leaders and members are instructed to “try the spirits” to ensure spiritual manifestations align with standard Church doctrine, priesthood channels, and sound judgment rather than self-serving claims or deceptive influences.
Mysticism vs. Daily Discipleship: Spiritual trump cards or over-mystifying administrative decisions can lead to manipulation or unrealistic expectations. True spiritual grounding often manifests in consistent, daily acts of service and devotion—particularly within the family—rather than sensational claims.
Historical Warnings Against Deception: Historical declarations, such as the 1913 First Presidency statement on the “Dream Mine,” warn against individuals using claims of visions, dreams, or private revelations to induce members into financial schemes, speculative ventures, or movements that undermine established priesthood authority.
Leadership Applications
Guiding Council Dynamics: Leaders can prevent individuals from using “spiritual trump cards” (e.g., claiming a strong spiritual feeling to override council discussions) by maintaining that decisions should be made through open, prayerful deliberation under proper priesthood keys.
Handling Boundary-Crossing Claims: When members present private revelations intended to direct others, advise the ward, or promote speculative groups, leaders can refer to foundational principles of stewardship to gently clarify that personal inspiration applies only within one’s assigned sphere or family.
Reframing Calls and Service: Leaders can help members focus on covenant-keeping and everyday Christlike living, reducing the cultural tendency to view callings or leadership roles through an ego-driven or hyper-mystical lens.

The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org.
Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes.
Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.
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1 hr 13 min
September 18How Leaders Eliminate Distraction | An Interview with Shawn Vanderhoven
Shawn Vanderhoven is the author of the USA Today bestseller Pause: How to Lead Brilliant Work in a Busy World and a Partner at The Wiseman Group, where he leads the executive development practice for senior leaders and rising talent. A collaborator on the New York Times bestseller Multipliers: How the Best Leaders Make Everyone Smarter (Second Edition), Shawn co-designs strategies that help organizations amplify their people, advising leaders at companies like Amazon, Alphabet, Adobe, Microsoft, and Salesforce. He holds a BS in History from Brigham Young University and lives in the San Francisco Bay Area with his wife, Anne, dedicated to helping leaders create the conditions where teams can focus on what matters most.
In the Church, Shawn has served as an Elders Quorum President and holds a deep passion for working with the rising generation, having served as a Young Men president four different times.

Links
Pause: How to Lead Brilliant Work in a Busy World
LinkedIn: Shawn Vanderhoven
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Highlights
Shawn Vanderhoven discusses concepts from his book Pause: How to Lead Brilliant Work in a Busy World. The conversation explores how leaders can help their teams avoid constant distractions, hyperconnectivity, and superficial busyness. Shawn highlights how shifting from an action-oriented mindset to an impact-oriented approach creates room for meaningful focus in both corporate and Church settings.
00:03:42 – The Moment of Inspiration for Writing the Book
00:04:52 – Chaos and Lack of Clarity in Leadership
00:06:46 – Research on Focus and Distraction
00:08:31 – The Impact of Hyper-Connectivity on Leadership
00:10:13 – Challenges Faced by Church Leaders
00:12:10 – The Default of Hyper-Connected Communication
00:13:07 – Advice for Leaders in the Whirlwind
00:14:26 – Assumptions About Work and Meetings
00:15:27 – Bias Towards Action vs. Bias Towards Impact
00:18:57 – Clarity in Leadership and Prioritization
00:20:30 – The Importance of Focus in Leadership
00:22:25 – Creating a Culture of Open Communication
00:23:43 – Delegation and Respecting Time
00:25:35 – Counseling Before Extending Callings
00:30:25 – Tuning In Before Jumping In
00:32:20 – The Role of Revelation in Leadership Decisions
00:37:54 – Respecting Individual Circumstances in Callings
Key Insights
Action vs. Impact: A bias toward action often causes frantic busyness and shifting priorities, whereas a bias toward impact prioritizes high-value outcomes and clear goals.
Clarify Priorities: The primary source of distraction for most teams is a lack of clear priorities. Focusing on a few core objectives reduces burnout and improves execution.
Counseling Before Calling: Extending callings or tasks effectively requires counseling with individuals beforehand to understand their current capacity and life constraints.
Holding a Clearing: Creating structured systems where individuals can express emotional or interpersonal frustrations removes distractions and clears the mental runway for high-level work.
Establishing “House Rules”: Leaders must set explicit expectations around communication and meetings to prevent hyperconnectivity from overwhelming team members.
Put Growth on the Agenda: Dedicating regular time in one-on-one meetings to align an individual’s personal development with organizational needs builds long-term commitment.
Leadership Applications
Define What Not to Do: When focusing a ward or organization on specific spiritual goals, leaders should explicitly set aside lower-priority initiatives so members can direct their energy effectively.
Tune In Before Jumping In: Instead of utilizing “drive-by delegation” or abrupt task handoffs, leaders should ask what someone is currently managing and discuss what can be removed from their plate to accommodate new assignments.
Set Clear Communication Boundaries: Bishoprics and council leaders can establish ward “house rules” regarding text messaging, response times, and off-hours communication to protect personal lives and prevent burnout.

The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org.
Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes.
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56 min
September 12Encouraging Returned Missionaries for the Next 10 Years | An Interview with Davis Smith
Davis Smith is the founder, chairman, and emeritus CEO of Cotopaxi, a Salt Lake City–based outdoor gear brand dedicated to poverty alleviation. Raised throughout Latin America, he developed a lifelong commitment to social impact after witnessing economic inequality firsthand. A serial e-commerce entrepreneur, Davis founded several successful ventures, including Brazil’s 2012 “Startup of the Year,” before building Cotopaxi into a global brand that has assisted millions living in poverty. He has served as a Presidential Leadership Scholar and a member of the United Nations Foundation’s Global Leadership Council.
Alongside his career in social business, Davis is a Senior Fellow at Yale University’s Jackson School of Global Affairs, where he teaches courses on leadership and social entrepreneurship. Davis and his wife, Asialene, are the parents of four children and have served extensively in Church leadership, including as mission leaders in the Brazil Recife North Mission (2023–2026) and in a stake presidency. He holds degrees from BYU and the Wharton School and is the author of The Next Ten Years.

Links
The Next Ten Years: A Returned Missionary’s Guide to the Decade That Shapes Your Life
Weaving a Vision into Your Service | An Interview with Davis Smith
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Highlights
In this YouTube livestream conversation, Kurt and Davis talk about navigating post-mission transitions, applying practical life skills, and developing lifelong discipleship centered on Jesus Christ.
00:01:27 – Davis Smith’s Mission Experience
00:02:14 – Missionary Statistics and Diversity
00:03:02 – Background in Brazil
00:04:42 – Overview of the Book Project
00:05:08 – Life Lessons from Zone Conferences
00:07:21 – Importance of Lifelong Discipleship
00:09:02 – Connecting Mission Skills to Life Skills
00:10:34 – Preparing Missionaries for Post-Mission Life
00:11:05 – Sending Off Missionaries
00:12:49 – The Contract for Return Missionaries
00:14:44 – The Significance of Marco Zero
00:15:15 – Maintaining Relationships with Returned Missionaries
00:15:46 – Intimate Compassion and the Good Samaritan
00:18:57 – Selecting Principles for the Book
00:21:00 – Book Release and Formats
00:21:54 – The Importance of the Next 10 Years
00:23:45 – Critical Times for Return Missionaries
00:26:27 – Spiritual Growth After the Mission
00:28:51 – Finding Purpose After a Mission
00:30:38 – Supporting Return Missionaries
00:32:13 – Advice for Parents of Return Missionaries
Key Insights
Connecting Mission Skills to Real-Life Success: The competencies developed on a mission—such as goal setting, communication, team coordination, and networking—directly translate into professional, financial, and relational success when returned missionaries learn to connect those dots.
Intimate Compassion (Oil Before Wine): Drawing from the parable of the Good Samaritan, effective leadership and personal correction require establishing love and empathy (“oil”) before offering invitation, counsel, or direction (“wine”).
Aiming for Continuous Growth, Not Maintenance: A spiritual peak reached during dedicated service should serve as a baseline for future growth rather than a status to merely maintain.
Immediate Post-Mission Focus & Purpose: The initial three to six months after full-time service are the most critical for establishing daily habits, securing church callings, avoiding technology distractions, and redirecting focus outward toward community service.
Financial Stewardship Early in Life: Establishing foundational financial habits—such as paying tithing first, saving consistently, and utilizing simple long-term investment vehicles like index funds—early in adulthood creates long-term independence and security.
Leadership Applications
Ask Intentional, Reflective Questions: Rather than asking for casual stories, leaders and parents can help returned missionaries process their service by asking targeted questions about spiritual gifts discovered, personal habits to keep, and lessons learned from mission leaders.
Provide Clear Purpose and Responsibility: Local leaders can ease tough life transitions by extending meaningful callings or mentoring assignments early on, helping individuals shift their focus away from self-centered anxiety and toward serving others.
Support Alternate & Service Mission Paths: Leaders should exercise empathy and avoid judgment when a mission ends unexpectedly or transitions to a service mission, recognizing that God’s plan and approval apply to all sincere efforts to serve.

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Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes.
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1 hr
September 08The Leadership of LaVell Edwards | An Interview with Dave McCann & Mark Ogletree
Dave McCann is a veteran sportscaster, play-by-play announcer, and television anchor with decades of broadcasting experience across regional and national media. After graduating from Brigham Young University with a degree in broadcasting, he began his career as a college sports reporter for ABC’s Good Morning America before anchoring sports in Las Vegas for nearly 20 years. He later served as an evening news co-anchor for KSL-TV in Salt Lake City and became a prominent media personality for BYUtv, hosting pre- and post-game shows alongside lead play-by-play coverage for BYU football and basketball. McCann also writes sports commentary for the Deseret News and co-hosts the digital BYU sports talk show Y’s Guys. He currently serves as an elders quorum president.

Dr. Mark D. Ogletree is a professor of Church History and Doctrine at Brigham Young University and a licensed professional counselor who has worked with individuals, couples, and families for over 30 years to strengthen relationships and navigate personal challenges. After spending two decades in the Church Educational System as a Seminary and Institute teacher and director, he joined the BYU faculty in 2010, specializing in family dynamics and prophetic teachings. An accomplished author, Ogletree has published numerous books and articles on marriage, family life, parenting, mental health, and contemporary Latter-day Saint history, including recent titles such as The Leadership Legacy of LaVell Edwards, Christ’s Miracles: Yesterday and Today, Heaven Is Cheering You On, and Beyond the Honeymoon.
Alongside his wife, Janie—with whom he shares eight children and 32 grandchildren—he hosts two weekly podcasts: Preserving Families and Stand by My Servants. In addition to his academic, clinical, and writing endeavors, Ogletree has served as a bishop in both McKinney, Texas, and Provo, Utah, and currently serves as a stake president in Provo.

Links
The Leadership Legacy of LaVell Edwards
MarkOgletree.com
Offering Transformation Through Jesus to Those You Lead | An Interview with Pastor Derwin L. Gray
How LaVell Edwards Influenced His Team to be a Team of Leaders | An Interview With Paul Gustavson
Love Without Works is Dead | An Interview With Chad Lewis, Former BYU Player & NFL Pro-Bowler
From BYU Quarterback to Stake President | An Interview with Brandon Doman
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Highlights
Mark Ogletree and Dave McCann discuss their book, The Leadership Legacy of LaVell Edwards. They share insights gained from interviewing dozens of former players, staff, and loved ones of the legendary Brigham Young University (BYU) football coach. The conversation centers on Edwards’ unique, Christlike approach to leadership, relationship-building, delegation, and personal mentorship.
Key Insights
Delegation and Empowerment: LaVell Edwards believed in hiring capable experts, trusting them completely, and giving them the autonomy to execute their roles without micromanagement.
One-on-One Relationships: Rather than focusing purely on football tactics, LaVell maintained an open-door policy and prioritized checking in on his players’ personal lives, families, and future goals.
Seeing Unseen Potential: LaVell possessed a unique ability to identify hidden talents in individuals—often encouraging position changes, urging players to serve missions, or convincing them to stay when they wanted to quit.
Lifting the Lost and Struggling: He repeatedly reached out to lower-string players or individuals in crisis, offering unwavering support, loyalty, and personal investment during their hardest moments.
Innovation and Vision: Recognizing systemic limitations, LaVell embraced innovative approaches—such as pioneering a high-powered passing offense—to elevate his program to national prominence.
Leadership Applications
Empower Ward and Organizational Leaders: Latter-day Saint leaders can emulate LaVell Edwards by delegating real authority to presidency members, committee leaders, and council members rather than attempting to manage every operational detail.
Prioritize Personal Ministering: Leaders should create accessible, low-pressure environments (such as open-door settings or informal check-ins) to focus on individual souls rather than just administrative tasks.
Instill Belief in Others: Leaders can actively express confidence in those they serve, helping individuals recognize their divine potential and encouraging them toward transformative choices like missionary or church service.
00:03:12 – Origins of the Book Project
00:04:45 – The Impact of LaVell Edwards
00:06:21 – LaVell’s Influence Beyond Football
00:07:13 – The Personal Touch of LaVell Edwards
00:08:37 – LaVell’s Unique Leadership Style
00:10:15 – LaVell’s Unexpected Journey to BYU
00:12:06 – LaVell’s Vision and Innovation
00:13:09 – The Last Moments with LaVell
00:14:06 – Mentorship in LaVell’s Life
00:15:33 – LaVell’s Leadership Style in the Church
00:17:27 – Balancing Authority and Delegation
00:19:40 – Creating a Culture of Trust
00:20:49 – One-on-One Relationships with Players
00:22:49 – LaVell’s Home as a Safe Space
00:24:53 – The Importance of Team Prayer
00:26:34 – Common Themes from Player Interviews
00:29:03 – Humility as a Key Principle
00:30:38 – LaVell’s Care for All Players
00:32:25 – Encouraging Players to Stay
00:34:00 – Promoting Missionary Service
00:42:12 – Conclusion and Legacy of LaVell Edwards

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Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes.
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58 min
September 01Creating an Easter Walk with Jesus Experience | An Interview with Heidi Lee
Heidi Lee serves as a stake communication director in the Mountain’s Edge area of Southwest Las Vegas, as well as in the Las Vegas West Mission office. Over the past 20 years, her Church service has including serving in four stake Relief Society presidencies as secretary, counselor, and president. Her wide-ranging calling experience spans serving as a Stake JustServe Specialist, Young Women presidency member, ward camp director, Relief Society teacher, and Primary music leader.
Most recently, Heidi served as the lead organizer for “A Walk with Jesus,” a multi-stake Easter walkthrough event that coordinated four neighboring stakes, numerous committees, and auxiliary leaders to transform a local chapel into interactive displays depicting the Savior’s life and resurrection.
A devoted stay-at-home mother, Heidi and her husband raised four children and now love spending time with their 16 grandchildren. In her personal time, she enjoys temple service and deep, lifelong gospel study.

Links
leadingsaints.org/fullpond
A Walk With Jesus: Master Replication Guide
Bible & Easter videos
Read the tag comments
Facebook: A Walk With Jesus – Southwest Las Vegas
Instagram @walkwithjesusswlv
Email Heidi Lee at [email protected]
YouTube: Southwest Las Vegas 2026 Walk with Jesus
YouTube: Northwest Las Vegas 2025 Walk with Jesus
YouTube: Northwest Las Vegas 2026 Walk with Jesus
Highlights
Heidi Lee talks about the successful initiative called “A Walk with Jesus,” which transformed a Latter-day Saint chapel into an immersive experience depicting the life of Jesus Christ. The project aimed to enhance the celebration of Easter and foster community engagement.
Key Insights
Community Engagement: The initiative was inspired by a desire to create a more significant Easter celebration, moving beyond traditional services to involve the broader community.
Collaborative Effort: The project involved multiple stakes working together, with each stake contributing resources and leadership to create a unified experience.
Interactive Experience: The chapel was transformed into various rooms representing key events in Jesus’s life, allowing participants to engage with the stories through self-guided tours and interactive displays.
Youth Involvement: Local youth played a crucial role, participating in the event by dressing in costumes and helping facilitate the experience, which provided them with service hours and a sense of ownership.
Feedback Mechanism: A comment wall was implemented to gather participant reflections, highlighting the spiritual impact of the experience and fostering a sense of connection to Christ.
Financial Planning: The project was funded through contributions from each stake, with careful budgeting and community donations to cover costs, demonstrating the importance of financial stewardship in church projects.
Leadership Applications
Fostering Collaboration: Latter-day Saint leaders can encourage collaboration among different wards and stakes to create larger community events, enhancing unity and shared purpose.
Engaging Youth: Involving youth in meaningful ways can empower them and strengthen their connection to church activities, making them feel valued and engaged.
Creating Immersive Experiences: Leaders can consider how to transform traditional church events into more interactive and engaging experiences that resonate with members and the community, ultimately deepening faith and understanding of gospel principles.
00:05:01 – Introduction to Heidi Lee
00:05:34 – Origin of the Walk with Jesus Project
00:06:42 – Concept of Transforming the Chapel
00:08:52 – Initial Thoughts and Inspiration
00:10:06 – Mission Statement Development
00:12:55 – Organizing Stake Participation
00:15:14 – Role of Decorators and Committees
00:17:42 – Event Timeline and Structure
00:19:45 – Room Themes and Experiences
00:20:38 – Evening Concerts and Adjustments
00:22:59 – Visual Examples of the Event
00:23:10 – Chapel Usage and Event Flow
00:25:37 – Sunday Operations and Attendance
00:28:30 – Community Involvement and Outreach
00:30:59 – Youth Involvement and Costumes
00:32:13 – Red String Keepsake Initiative
00:34:00 – Managing Finances and Budget
00:37:12 – Donations and Support
00:40:42 – Lessons Learned for Future Events
00:42:32 – Social Media and Marketing Strategies
00:44:32 – Comment Wall and Feedback
00:46:33 – Event Impact and Attendance Growth
00:48:14 – Reflections on the Experience
00:50:17 – Addressing Questions and Future Planning

The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org.
Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes.
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