Nick Ellem is one of the leading advocates of adaptive leadership in Australia. Whether its applying adaptive leadership in his own government work, contributing to the local practitioner community, or maintaining global connections in service of growing the impact of this work, Nick's passion and perseverance stand out. In this episode we hear from Nick about his own journey with adaptive leadership, his reflections on it's impact, and the state of the practitioner community in Australia.

In this episode Saul and Andrew are joined by Rosamund Christie who is a leader in the area of adaptive leadership development in Australia to reflect on that work over the past 20 years. Rosamund ran the Sydney Leadership Program at Social Leadership Australia for many years, a provocative adaptive leadership development experience that has had lasting impact on participants and their organisations many years later. She leads much of the adaptive work at the Australian Graduate School of Management (UNSW) in her role as Adjunct Associate Professor and brings her own unique blend of challenge and support to her private coaching and consulting work.

In this episode Andrew and Saul talk with Dr. David Cooke about his new book - Kind Business. David shares his experience leading Konica Minolta Australia / New Zealand to amazing results based on a values create value approach. David's work now helps others reimagine corporations and organisations where people and planet are placed at the errata of leadership decisions.

In this episode we launch Andrew's new book - Getting Unstuck, How learning bravely is a superpower for personal growth and change. We look at examples where individuals, teams and organisations get stuck and what it takes to move beyond it.

In this episode Greg Muller shares his leadership learnings from a diverse set of of professional and personal experiences, from taking a digital start-up to market through to innovative ventures in the affordable housing and workplace mental health sectors.

You can learn more about Greg's current ventures at:

Workplace Mental Health - https://www.theunitedproject.net

Affordable Housing - https://nestdvillages.com.au

In this episode Saul and Andrew speak with Jarrod Wheatley OAM about his work in challenging the status quo in the out of home care sector and showing what’s possible when you prioritise connection over protection with children in care. 

Jarrod is the founder and CEO of Professional Individualised Care (PIC). Most recently, Jarrod has co-founded the Centre for Relational Care (CRC) to achieve foundational policy, legislative and regulatory changes to the NSW child protection and out of home care system. For this work, Jarrod was named NSW Youth Worker of the Year (2014), NSW Young Australian of the Year (2019) and in 2022, was awarded the Order of Australia Medal.

Further links from episode:

https://www.centreforrelationalcare.org.au/jmi-report

https://www.linkedin.com/company/99095131/admin/dashboard/

Leading to Learn is a podcast that seeks to understand the dynamics of leadership and leadership development within todays complex world. Saul Brown and Andrew Williams are two Australian based leadership scholars and practitioners who are fascinated in the role that leadership plays in social systems change. They work in their own leadership development practices and jointly at AGSM, University of New South Wales. This is the first pilot episode where Saul and Andrew explore topics, ideas and future guest speakers as they set out to lead to learn.