When you’re the CEO of the PGA or the chairman of NBC Sports, there’s little room for error. Yet when Notre Dame Athletic Director Pete Bevacqua had those jobs, he wasn’t afraid to take big swings. In episode 4, we sit down for a fascinating talk about leadership, learning from your mistakes, the keys to negotiation, and staying true to who you are. Pod Quad is two Holy Cross priests having curiosity conversations at the University of Notre Dame.