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Welcome to Learned in Primary, where we discuss that everything we know we learned in primary. This podcast focuses on the things that we are learning as adults that remind us of what we learned as children growing up in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Join hosts Jethro Jones and Tom Bay as they discuss the current hot topics in thought leadership and how they relate to the gospel of Jesus Christ.

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In this episode we discuss “Love Leadership” by John Hope Bryant. This podcast is not affiliated with the author of the book or the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

My son, peace be unto thy soul; thine adversity and thine afflictions shall be but a small moment; And then, if thou endure it well, God shall exalt thee on high; thou shalt triumph over all thy foes. D&C 121:7–8

Fear Fails - “I’ve had a front-row seat for witnessing how fear destroys a community.” p 5. I looked up the phrase “fear not” in the Gospel Library app and found that that phrase was used 441 times. 249 times in the Old Testament, 85 times in the Book of Mormon, 76 times in the New Testament, 27 times in the Doctrine and Covenants, and 4 times in the Pearl of Great Price, so how about we don’t fear. 


Love Makes Money - “For a teenager, I was making a lot of money, and I got loud and overly confident about my newfound success. Over time, I have always found this combination to be a warning sign of impending failure.” p. 76 The Pride Cycle on LDS.org


Yea, and we may see at the very time when he doth prosper his people, yea, in the increase of their fields, their flocks and their herds, and in gold, and in silver, and in all manner of precious things of every kind and art; sparing their lives, and delivering them out of the hands of their enemies; softening the hearts of their enemies that they should not declare wars against them; yea, and in fine, doing all things for the welfare and happiness of his people; yea, then is the time that they do harden their hearts, and do forget the Lord their God, and do trample under their feet the Holy One—yea, and this because of their ease, and their exceedingly great prosperity. Helaman 12:2

Vulnerability is Power - “Delivering bad news and admitting mistakes as soon as you become aware of them is one of the most powerful ways to show vulnerability…I find that bad news only gets worse if it’s left to drift on its own.” p 125 - #miracleofforgiveness


Giving is Getting - “If you want to have a prosperous, sustainable life, you’ll find it cheaper, smarter, and easier to do the work of love leadership. You will be better off in the long term if you inspire people, get them to believe in your vision, invest in them so they trust you, reward good behavior, build relationships. People will do the work they’re inspired to do rather than the work you force them to do.” p 157 - Why does our church not have paid ministers and still grow and be successful? Because we have a vision that is eternal and powerful. 


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Next month’s book: Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less by Greg McKeown

Welcome to Learned in Primary, where we discuss that everything we know we learned in primary. This podcast focuses on the things that we are learning as adults that remind us of what we learned as children growing up in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Join hosts Jethro Jones and Tom Bay as they discuss the current hot topics in thought leadership and how they relate to the gospel of Jesus Christ.

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In this episode we discuss "Stuffocation" by James Wallman . This podcast is not affiliated with the author of the book or the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Experientialists Quiz: http://stuffocation.org/expquiz/

Jethro’s Takeaways

Tom’s Takeaways

Our next book is Love Leadership by John Hope Bryant

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Welcome to Learned in Primary, where we discuss that everything we know we learned in primary. This podcast focuses on the things that we are learning as adults that remind us of what we learned as children growing up in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Join hosts Jethro Jones and Tom Bay as they discuss the current hot topics in thought leadership and how they relate to the gospel of Jesus Christ.

You can follow the show on twitter @learnedprimary and follow the hosts @tommybay and @jethrojones. If you like what you are hearing, please subscribe to the podcast in iTunes and share it with your friends.

In this episode we discuss “Everyone Communicates, Few Connect” by John Maxwell. This podcast is not affiliated with the author of the book or The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Tom’s Takeaways:

Jethro’s Takeaways:

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Our book for next time: Stuffocation

Welcome to Learned in Primary, where we discuss that everything we know we learned in primary. This podcast focuses on the things that we are learning as adults that remind us of what we learned as children growing up in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Join hosts Jethro Jones and Tom Bay as they discuss the current hot topics in thought leadership and how they relate to the gospel of Jesus Christ.

You can follow the show on twitter @learnedprimary and follow the hosts @tommybay and @jethrojones. If you like what you are hearing, please subscribe to the podcast in iTunes and share it with your friends.

In this episode we discuss “Sticky Branding: 12.5 Principles to Stand Out, Attract Customers, and Grow an Incredible Brand” by Jeremy Miller. This podcast is not affiliated with the authors of the book or the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Overarching Theme:
There are many strategies (presented in the form of ideas, stories, and exercises) and core factors to creating and maintaining a “Sticky Brand”, or in our case an effective church.

Jethro’s takeaways

Tom’s takeaways

Next book: Everyone Communicates, Few Connect

Welcome to Learned in Primary, where we discuss that everything we know we learned in primary. This podcast focuses on the things that we are learning as adults that remind us of what we learned as children growing up in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Join hosts Jethro Jones and Tom Bay as they discuss the current hot topics in thought leadership and how they relate to the gospel of Jesus Christ.

You can follow the show on twitter @learnedprimary and follow the hosts @tommybay and @jethrojones. If you like what you are hearing, please subscribe to the podcast in iTunes and share it with your friends.

In this episode we discuss “Influencer: The New Science of Leading Change” by Joseph Grenny, David Maxfield, Kerry Patterson, Ron McMilian, Al Switzler. This podcast is not affiliated with the author of the book or the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Overarching Theme:
Influencers do three things better than others. They are clearer about the results they want to achieve and how they will measure them. They focus on a small number of vital behaviors that will help them achieve those results. They over-determine change by amassing six sources of influence that both motivate and enable the vital behaviors.

Jethro’s takeaways

“Actually, people do learn ways to take pleasure from almost any activity, even if the activity isn’t inherently satisfying. Psychiatrist M. Scott Peck makes this point rather bluntly: “Just because a desire or behavior is natural, does not mean it is … unchangeable.… It is also natural… to never brush our teeth. Yet we teach ourselves to do the unnatural. Another characteristic of human nature—perhaps the one that makes us more human—is our capacity to do the unnatural, to transcend and hence transform our own nature.”


“These are times when someone’s choices either lead toward great results or set up a cascade of negative behaviors that create and perpetuate problems.” - Make choices -early on. Don’t wait for the last minute to make a choice that will impact you into eternity. “No one has ever come up with a more efficient way to raise the next generation than a household of married parents with children.” Why Marriage and Family Matter–Everywhere in the World - crucial moments


This is exactly why Christ spoke in Parables.

“With the new question, Miller discovered that the best way to help individuals align their behavior with their deepest motives was to stop trying to control their thoughts and behaviors. You must replace judgment with empathy, and lectures with questions. If you do so, you gain influence. The instant you stop trying to impose your agenda on others, you eliminate the fight for control. You end unnecessary battles over whose view of the world is correct.”


We often don’t act in our long-term best interest because the short-term actions we currently enjoy are far more motivating than the remote and distant likelihood of suffering in the future. With persistent influence challenges, bad actions are generally real, fun, and now, whereas negative consequences are often fuzzy, maybe not so bad after all, and most certainly a long time off. 


Tom’s takeaways

“At the end of the day, what qualifies people to be called ‘leaders’ is their capacity to influence others to change their behavior in order to achieve important results.”
“…success relies on the capacity to systematically create rapid, profound, and sustainable changes in a handful of key behaviors.”
“…the short explanation for why they’re successful is that they see themselves not simply as owners, managers, or leaders but as full-time influencers.”
Christ, Joseph of Egypt, Moses, Peter, Joseph Smith
“If you’re looking to reach rather modest goals by stealthily exerting your will over others, this book is not for you.”… Lucifer.


“Clear goals aimed at a compelling target can have an enormous impact on behavior because they engage more than simply the brain. They also engage the heart.”
Plan of salvation; Proclaim the gospel, Perfect the saints, Redeem the dead


“A measure won’t drive behavior if it doesn’t maintain attention, and it certainly won’t maintain attention if it’s rarely assessed— especially if other measures are taken, discussed, and fretted over a hundred times more frequently.”
“Measurement is an integral part of the change effort, and done correctly, it informs and drives behavior.”
> “Where performance is measured, performance improves. Where performance is measured and reported, the rate of improvement accelerates.” — Thomas S Monson


“It is not enough to do your best; you must know what to do, and THEN do your best.”
> “Do [your] duty; that is best; Leave unto [the] Lord the rest!“—Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Handbook, Priesthood responsibilities, General conference


“Remember the good news here. Overcoming habits or developing complex athletic, intellectual, and interpersonal skills are not merely functions of motivation, personality traits, or even character. They all tie back to ability. Develop greater proficiency at deliberate practice as well as the ability to manage your emotions, and you significantly increase your chances for turning vital behaviors into vital habits.”
Attend the temple, read scriptures, be industrious


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Welcome to Learned in Primary, where we discuss that everything we know we learned in primary. This podcast focuses on the things that we are learning as adults that remind us of what we learned as children growing up in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Join hosts Jethro Jones and Tom Bay as they discuss the current hot topics in thought leadership and how they relate to the gospel of Jesus Christ.

You can follow the show on twitter @learnedprimary and follow the hosts @tommybay and @jethrojones. If you like what you are hearing, please subscribe to the podcast in iTunes and share it with your friends.

In this episode we discuss “Built to Lead: 7 Management R.E.W.A.R.D.S Principles for Becoming a Top 10% Manager” by David Long. This podcast is not affiliated with the author of the book or the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Recognize and reward your employees to make your company successful. By making sure others are successful, you will become even more successful. 


Success is making a difference in the lives of others…
Happiness is watching them grow because of it.
By this definition, Christ is the most successful person to have ever lived… and potentially the happiest


“Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys; look on them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death.” — Sun Tzu, The Art of War - Captain Moroni!


Influencer: The New Science of Leading Change, Second Edition

Why we are doing this podcast?

Remember that saying, “Everything I need to know I learned in Kindergarten”? The saying “Everything I need to know, I learned in Primary” is also true. Primary is Sunday school for children who belong to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church or Mormons). Every doctrine of the church is touched on in Primary, so it stands as the basis for children to have all the knowledge necessary to be baptized when they are eight years old. It doesn’t mean that every 8-year-old is a scriptorian, but they do know enough to help them make choices that will lead them back to God.

As long as men have been thinking, they have been trying to communicate their ideas and thoughts and make sense of why we do things, how we live, etc. The following two links are some of the most popular ideas men and women have come up with recently:

New York Times top 10 nonfiction

Amazon Bestsellers

We’ll be getting a lot of our material from those two lists. We’ll provide links to books on Amazon, which will give us a small kickback if you buy them. That way we can continue buying and reviewing more books.

We love reading these books. We think it is fun to learn about different things and become a better people. We also love being members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. When we read things in these popular books that are typically not spiritual in nature, we can’t help but think of how we already learned that, years ago, in Primary.

Our first book will be:

About your hosts:

Tommy Bay: Tom is an executive secretary in his ward in South Jordan Utah.

Jethro Jones: Jethro is in the bishopric in his ward in Kodiak, Alaska.

Purchasing the book from this link will be a way to support this podcast. Thanks in advance for your support.