Ilkin was diagnosed with NPD in his early twenties, as well as ADHD and mild OCD. His NPD drove him to achieve in his career, but also to self-destruct. In this second part of his interview, he talks about the negatives of NPD, both in himself and what he has seen in others. He also reveals a program which helped him learn to be honest and vulnerable - one which has the potential to be adapted to help many people with pathological narcissism.