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What if the traditional PM career ladder isn't the only way—or even the best way—to make an impact? In this eye-opening conversation with Brian Summons, Enterprise Strategy & Transformation Leader and Senior Internal Consultant - Strategy Activation at CHOC, we explore what happens when you choose to forge your own path.
Brian made the bold decision to leave traditional PM roles behind for consulting—and he's here to share the unfiltered truth about what that transition really looks like.
In this episode, we dive into:
✨ The "aha moment" that sparked Brian's decision to leave the conventional PM path
🔍 The biggest myths about PM consulting (and the unexpected challenges nobody warns you about)
🎯 How the "outsider-insider" perspective unlocks solutions traditional PMs might miss
💡 The secret weapons from PM backgrounds that become superpowers in consulting
🤝 Balancing expert authority with the humility to understand each client's unique context
Whether you're a PM feeling boxed in by the traditional career path, curious about consulting, or looking to bring fresh perspective to your current role, this conversation will challenge everything you thought you knew about PM career trajectories.
The corporate ladder isn't broken—it's just not the only way up. Sometimes the most impactful path is the one you build yourself.
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What if the traditional PM career ladder isn't the only way—or even the best way—to make an impact? In this eye-opening conversation with Brian Summons, Enterprise Strategy & Transformation Leader and Senior Internal Consultant - Strategy Activation at CHOC, we explore what happens when you choose to forge your own path.
Brian made the bold decision to leave traditional PM roles behind for consulting—and he's here to share the unfiltered truth about what that transition really looks like.
In this episode, we dive into:
✨ The "aha moment" that sparked Brian's decision to leave the conventional PM path
🔍 The biggest myths about PM consulting (and the unexpected challenges nobody warns you about)
🎯 How the "outsider-insider" perspective unlocks solutions traditional PMs might miss
💡 The secret weapons from PM backgrounds that become superpowers in consulting
🤝 Balancing expert authority with the humility to understand each client's unique context
Whether you're a PM feeling boxed in by the traditional career path, curious about consulting, or looking to bring fresh perspective to your current role, this conversation will challenge everything you thought you knew about PM career trajectories.
The corporate ladder isn't broken—it's just not the only way up. Sometimes the most impactful path is the one you build yourself.

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