In a culture obsessed with quick wins and viral visibility, how do we build something that actually lasts?

In this powerful episode of Off Topic But On Point, three friends with radically different strengths come together to explore what it means to build for eternity, not just success.

Odette de Beer (business coach and Global strategist), Ps Christo Pretorius (kingdom visionary and expander), and Dr Janine Do Cabo (identity and healing specialist) unpack the keys to creating legacy — not just in business or ministry, but in life.

Together, they explore the foundations of legacy-driven leadership, the spiritual weight of stewardship, and the courage it takes to multiply what God has entrusted to you.

This episode will challenge your metrics, recalibrate your focus, and leave you with practical tools to build beyond the moment — and into the eternal.

What We Talk About:

• What it really means to build for eternity (not just performance)
• Why legacy isn’t what you leave to people, but what you leave in them
• Three foundations of a legacy-driven business
• How to steward your purpose in the mundane
• Multiplication vs. burnout — the healthy way to scale kingdom vision

Takeaway Keys:

✅ Audit Your Alignment

✅ Create a Stewardship Habit

✅ Start Multiplying — now

Quotes to Remember:

Odette de Beer: "Legacy is like customer experience – it’s the feeling you leave behind after people deal with you. Do they feel smaller, or do they feel bigger than they thought they were?"

Pastor Christo Pretorius: "Legacy is not what you leave for people; it’s what you leave in people."

Dr Janine Do Cabo: "Real legacy is not what we leave behind, but what we leave in people – values that outlive our presence and ripple into generations."

🔗 Connect with the Hosts & Guests:

• Odette de Beer – amplifycoach.biz
• Ps Christo Pretorius – christopretorius.com
• Dr Janine Do Cabo – janinedocabo.co.za

🎧 Listen Now:

Available on Spotify • Apple Podcasts • YouTube Don’t forget to subscribe, share, and leave us a review if this episode sparked something in you!