When pressure hits, do you fight, flee, freeze, or appease? In this episode of Off Topic, But On Point, Odette de Beer is joined by Dr. Janine Do Cabo and Ps. Christo Pretorius to unpack how our default stress responses show up in business and leadership. From bats in the living room to boardroom battles, they share personal stories and practical upgrades, turning raw instinct into intentional leadership. Discover the “3 Rs of Response” and how to reframe survival mode into your leadership superpower.
00:00 Introduction to Off Topic, but on point
00:59 A Funny Story About Fear Responses
01:59 Understanding Default Responses to Stress
02:57 Defining Fight, Flight, Freeze, and Appease
04:31 Redirecting Instincts in Business and Relationships
08:19 The Impact of Fight Mode on Teams
10:50 Personal Stories of Default Responses
20:19 The Delta Code and Leadership
22:46 Reframing Instincts into Leadership Strengths
29:01 Practical Tips for Managing Responses
34:43 Conclusion and Upcoming Releases
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