In this episode, hosts Gillian Grefe and Michelle Lee sit down with Lesley Pinckney for a thought-provoking discussion on how corporate culture intersects with authenticity. The trio begins by highlighting the role of food as a powerful connector, before diving into Lesley’s diverse professional path and the balancing act of “showing up” authentically within organizational norms.

Lesley underscores the importance of discernment over judgment, advocating for “brave spaces” where team members feel safe to express their true selves. She stresses hiring for cultural fit over mere technical skill, and explains how this approach fosters genuine connections and more resilient team dynamics. The conversation also explores the practical challenges of adopting new tools, the value of data-driven decision-making, and the importance of well-placed questions in effective management. Ultimately, the episode offers actionable insights for leaders seeking to cultivate inclusive, authentic workplaces—where meaningful relationships and innovation can thrive.

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