<p>Commander Tim Hagel, Chief of Police of Thousand Oaks, CA, on "positive deviance," the definition of insanity, and changing the course of kids' lives through the awesome power of rock and roll.</p>

Commander Tim Hagel, Chief of Police of Thousand Oaks, CA, on "positive deviance," the definition of insanity, and changing the course of kids' lives through the awesome power of rock and roll.

Let's Be Brave and Keep Kids Out of Gangs, with Commander Tim Hagel

Singer-songwriter Rain Perry brings you good ideas from inspiring people for troubled times. Then, she composes a song based on each interview!

In a time of divisiveness and outrage, let's bring out the best in ourselves and gather inspiration and hope from unexpected role models: a cop who fights gangs by teaching kids music; a border lawyer working to reunite families; a small town teacher saving the world with personal stories, and more. 

We have big challenges facing us. Let's be brave.

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Singer-songwriter Rain Perry brings you good ideas from inspiring people for troubled times. Then, she composes a song based on each interview! In a time of divisiveness and outrage, let's bring out the best in ourselves and gather inspiration and hope from unexpected role models: a cop who fights gangs by teaching kids music; a border lawyer working to reunite families; a small town teacher saving the world with personal stories, and more. We have big challenges facing us. Let's be brave.

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Let's Be Brave and Keep Kids Out of Gangs, with Commander Tim Hagel

Let's Be Brave and Keep Kids Out of Gangs, with Commander Tim Hagel