Rain Perry's Let's Be Brave

The Wardens, a musical trio from Banff, Canada, weave stories of backcountry law enforcement into "Sons of the Pioneers"-style harmonies. Ray, Brad and Scott talk to Rain about the unearthly sound of Grizzly in mourning, keeping four million tourists safe, and what to do when an elk drops her baby in your flowerbed.

Ojai writing and performance coach Kim Maxwell on the power of the personal story, how policy changes when you listen instead of fix, and why the chicken dance is the key to it all.

Ricardo De Anda, immigration lawyer and "border radical," on the challenges in getting kids out of detention, the border as an asset, and why it could all be so much easier.

Musician Chuck Prophet extols the virtues of being shot out of a cannon, of Donald Trump-style promotion, and of being an unabashed fan.

Hassan Ahmad, DC lawyer and member of the Dulles Justice Coalition, describes how the chaos of the Travel Ban galvanized him as an activist and inspired him to run for office.

Commander Tim Hagel, Chief of Police of Thousand Oaks, CA, on "positive deviance," the definition of insanity, and changing the course of kids' lives through the awesome power of rock and roll.

Singer-songwriter Rain Perry tracks down good ideas from inspiring people for troubled times, then writes a song for each interview.

Meet a cop who fights gangs by teaching kids music, a border lawyer working to reunite families, a small-town teacher saving the world one story at a time, and more.

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