Made Up Talk Show scheduling snafu due to holidays and traveling slowed down our release schedule, so instead we’re highlighting a real and delightful podcast, Page by Paige by Paige Heimark! You can subscribe to Page by Paige on any major podcast platform, or by visiting letshearit.network

This week the wonderful Amanda Rothman joins Ellen and Dennis to talk drama therapy, our need to take care of others (including, sometimes, our therapists), and how shame is a driving force behind perfectionism. They also go off on a tangent about The Matrix for … way? … too long? Is this officially a kung fu movie review podcast now? Maybe!

You can find Amanda Rothman on Psychology Today. Hire her!

Nikita Burdein bunkers down with us and the podcast “Celebrating Oprah..People Gotta Know About This Woman.” In the episode he brought us, we learn about Oprah’s many guests.

More of Nikita at www.nikitaburdein.com

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Actor, improviser, and founder of Rubbish Comedy Collective Xave Padin joins the Perfectionists (Ellen and Dennis) to talk about the gift (and curse) of word-perfect script memorization and what it took to create a new comedy collective founded on equity, representation, and integrity. All that, plus Xave gives Ellen and Dennis the gift of a brand new podcast intro.

You can find out more about Xave and Rubbish Comedy Collective at rubbishcomedy.com.

Stephanie IsComedy peeps her way into our ears with the podcast she brought, “The People Watcher.” In this episode she brought us, we finally hear the Our Father.

More of Stephanie on IG at @stephanieiscomedy

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The Perfectionists (Ellen and Dennis) get their very first live-in-the-studio guest, and what a get she is! Robyn Chapman is the editor of American Cult, a comics anthology about religious cults in America. She talks with Dennis and Ellen about the importance of self-compassion and how Kristin Neff’s book Self-Compassion helped her get through a particularly hard time. Then they discuss cults throughout American history and determine once and for all whether or not improv counts as a cult. (The answer may surprise you!)

Robyn runs a micropress called Paper Rocket. Find it online at paperrocketcomics.com.

Jillian Courtney embraces us with her love of this podcat, “Why Can’t We Be Friends?” In this episode, a woman finds many friends.

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Abby Russell is a content producer in the video game industry. The perfectionists (Ellen and Dennis, natch) have a delightful chat with Abby about Twitch streaming, comedy writing, and the high stakes (low stakes) world of improv.

You can find Find Abby on Twitch, Twitter, and Instagram. Her handle is @ybbaaabby on all the things.

Denise Costa diagnoses us with a good time with this podcast, “The Real House Calls Doctor Detective.” In the episode she brought us, Fauci missed time with his family for some BS.

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This week the Perfectionists (I’ve decided that’s what Ellen and Dennis are called–it’s canon now) welcome motion graphics designer and storyteller Jenny Bee to the studio to talk about mental health in art. We get into how school and work cultures wrongly glorify sacrificing our bodies to get ahead.

Mentioned in this episode:

Kelly McGonigal’s TED Talk on stress: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/looking-up-with-dr-deepika-chopra/id1519100248?i=1000482856868