WARNING. some of what you hear on today’s podcast episode is triggering. But, to paraphrase the movie Rob Roy, if they can bear to withstand it, I can bear to be witness. In this episode I talk about something horrific that I saw. And then I talk about some ways that we can put a stop in very practical ways, to testing on animals. We’re about to hit the year 2020. Isn’t it about time we live more harmoniously with the beans we share this planet with?