Peter Ruggiero is an adjunct professor of English, writing and literature in universities in the Boston area and other places in the US. Through his work, Peter often works with immigrants improving their English writing skills in preparation for new life as Americans. We talked about anti-black sentiment detected in new immigrants and we discussed reasons for that. We also speculated about why African-Americans are kept at the bottom of the social ranking of groups in the US. As a purportedly egalitarian society, we need to heal to allow all of our people to reach their full potential but before we get to that, there are matters that must be brought out of the shadows and discussed.