Joining me today is Professor Angie Abdilla. Angie is a palawa~trawlwoolway woman. She is the founder and CEO of Old Ways, New and works with Indigenous knowledges and systems in the design of places, experiences and deep technologies. As a consultant, she works as a designer, as a published researcher, she presents topics such as human technology interrelations and Indigenous design in the built environment. She is a member of the Global Futures Council on Artificial Intelligence for Humanity as part of the World Economic Forum, co-founded the Indigenous Protocols and Artificial Intelligence working group (IP//AI) and is a Professor of Practice for the UNSW Faculty of Art, Architecture and Design.