This episode is a candid conversation between Macky and Rachel about how reframing definitions of success can lead to a more fulfilling and enjoyable life. Traveling the road to fulfilling your dreams and goals is always tough, but with the right mindset and reminders, it can be just as amazing an experience as actually getting to where you want to be.

Also there's a lot of talk about food. Maybe too much. Which totally on brand and will surprise none of the people that know these two well.