The royal commission into veteran suicides is probing the ugliest parts of the Australian defence force.

Putting the spotlight on accountability and leadership, the commission has cast doubt on defence’s ability to protect the wellbeing and safety of its people.

One former military chaplain shared the story of the abuse she experienced, and says when she sought help, she was told to deal with it herself.

Today, chief political correspondent for The Saturday Paper Karen Middleton on lies, cowardice and poor leadership in the ADF.

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