He’s worked for four presidents from both parties, and is a New York Times best-selling author. But wait until you hear the stories about North Carolina that Durham native David Gergen shares with Tim in this week’s episode! From a dangerous mission to learn about the KKK, to his thoughts on the president 50 years after Watergate, to his personal stories about former North Carolina Governor Terry Sanford, it’s a conversation that will keep your ears perked up. Gergen will also tie it all together to talk about leadership in his new book "Hearts Touched with Fire: How Great Leaders are Made." We’ll also ask him about his favorite leader in his own life and illustrious career.