In this episode of Life Between Titles, host Savan Kong sits down with Phil Reiman, former Department of Defense attorney and lifelong builder of systems, teams, and ideas.
Phil shares his journey from architecture to law, revealing how a deep curiosity about how things work led him to one of the most complex institutions in the world—the DoD. Together they unpack what it means to balance innovation with ethics, the role of lawyers in shaping national policy, and why empathy and communication are as critical to leadership as technical skill.
💬 In this conversation:
• How lawyers drive innovation and safeguard ethics inside the DoD
• Why empathy is the cornerstone of effective lawyering and leadership
• The connection between architecture, systems thinking, and legal frameworks
• Lessons from military service on teamwork and resilience
• How cultural exposure builds trust and broadens perspective
• Why integrity is non-negotiable in leadership
🕰️ Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Phil’s Journey
03:38 The Role of Lawyers in the DoD
06:03 Identity and Life Changes
08:42 Innovation and Connections
11:16 Career Choices and Fear of Poverty
14:03 From Architecture to Law
19:24 Military Experience and Policy Work
26:05 Navigating Legal Complexities in Defense
31:21 Empathy and Understanding Clients
35:46 Cultural Exposure and Global Lessons
42:30 Team Dynamics and Collaboration
45:23 Innovation Culture in the DoD
50:24 Maintaining Integrity and the Moral High Ground
51:56 Looking Ahead — Horizons and Values
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