On today's ep Des and Steve chat about what isolation is teaching them about life. Of course they have a bit of a moan about Trump and try not to laugh about Boris because it is not funny. It is of course unlucky for Boris because he was so late to take it all seriously. We also chat about how great it is to have exercise routines online and how they are saving us. Des gives his few sense about how things are looking in NY and compares the international reaction to the local one.

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