Who is Jack? My older brother. While visiting for the holidays i conned him into a podcast! It was a great conversation. mostly playful, sometimes serious. We jumped around a lot.

We talk about his sports years and aspirations. Psychedelic moments. Working at underground poker rooms. A near death experience...in Mexico! From fatter to fitter. How becoming a father changed him. AND.....where you can pee and shoot a shotgun at the same time!!!

Enjoy this fun conversation with my bro!