In today's episode we are pleased to bring you a fellow podcaster in the AU/Punchline family, Collin Ledbetter - host of the Built Different Podcast! Collin's story is one of service, beginning with his time in the National Guard, moving over to STLMPD, and eventually retiring early from the force after a near fatal shooting in the city. His story is one of recovery and heroism and we are so proud to not only call him a St. Louisan but someone who inspires us to be better as creators and men too!

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0:00 intro

0:20 sponsors

2:25 introducing Collin/shooting story

16:25 mental health

20:10 police PTSD

26:05 identity after service

32:00 use of force in policing/crisis negotiations

40:35 Collin’s philosophy

47:10 recovery after shooting

58:25 military training in real life application

1:10:40 TSG + outro

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