Life's What You Make it

This week Valerie and Trish talk about the importance of trying things out and the joy of creativity from amateur drama and painting to rap and power of Denise Chaiula as a performer. Best jobs ever, getting out of a rut and watching rugby are also on the menu, and they discover a shared love of a good raffle!

In their opening conversation, Trish and Valerie chat about spider bites, taking control of your own health, woodpeckers and ice-swimming, and using anger to drive positive change in your life.