Clare and Steve continue their mini series of podcast episodes talking with coaches who have followed ‘non traditional’ routes to coaching and experiencing supervision; they talk with Tony Worgan, exploring his journey from journalism into coaching and supervision. Tony compares and contrasts relating in coaching and in journalistic interviewing and our threesome go on to explore the potential unconscious questioner agenda within questioning. Tony shares his first experiences of coaching and supervision. Our conversation turns to the maturity of the coach, comparisonitis when turning up in group supervision; how the real work starts when we reflect on how we are showing up and have shown up in supervision, and grow from that reflection (into my soul).