268 Pounds. Emergency Room. Type 2 Diabetes Diagnosis.

For Oscar Camejo, that was the wake-up call of a lifetime. On a weekend, his doctor’s office told him to rush to the emergency room — because his life was on the line.

In this gripping and heartfelt conversation, Light Up the Mic host Kembala Evans sits down with WebMD contributor Oscar Camejo for a candid discussion that will both shake and inspire you. She uncovers how Oscar turned a shocking healthcare diagnosis into a powerful physical and mental transformation. From an overweight man out-of-breath taking the stairs to becoming a strong marathon and ultra runner, his transformational story is about faith, focus and getting back to the basics. 

Through vulnerability, resilience, and determination, he walks us through his journey of reclaiming his health—sharing not only the physical steps but also the mindset shifts and community support that fueled his transformation. Oscar opens up about the lifestyle changes that helped him reverse his diabetes, drop the weight, and saved his life.

Whether you’re battling a health scare, looking for weight loss motivation, or seeking fitness inspiration, this conversation will give you the tools — and the belief — to start your own journey.

Key Takeaways:

• Take Action: Listen to your body. Don’t ignore warning signs — early action saves lives.
• The Power of Your Mindset: Self-talk, visualization, and belief fuel long-term success.
• Overcoming “Gym Shame”: How to stop comparing yourself to others and own your progress.
• Consistency Beats Quick Fixes and Gimmicks: Small, daily habits create lasting results.
• Find Your Tribe: How community can help you achieve your fitness goals and stay motivated. 
• Health Tips: Practical Tips to take control of your health (checkups, stress management).
• The Dangers of The Comparison Game: Comparing yourself to others can steal your happiness and hinder your progress.
• IMPORTANT NOTE: Be sure to consult with your doctor or healthcare professional before starting any diet, lifestyle change, or exercise routine.

Resources:

• Beating Diabetes Lifestyle Podcast — Oscar’s platform for health, mindset, and transformation.
• Black Men Run — Running group promoting health in the Black community.
• American Diabetes Association — Support, prevention, and education on diabetes.

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In this inspiring episode of Light Up the Mic, host Kembala Evans reconnects with high school track teammate and wellness advocate Vanessa Lain. With over 27 years in the healthcare industry and a passion for running that spans decades, Vanessa shares her personal journey of resilience—from witnessing her mother’s battle with obesity and diabetes to forging her own path of health, discipline, and community connection.

They discuss the importance of goals, accountability partners, and striking the right balance between diet and exercise to live healthier. They explore the impact of cortisol on weight management, the significance of strength training, and the challenges of overcoming injuries.

Vanessa opens up about breaking generational health patterns, the importance of your mindset, and the power of accountability through running groups and fitness routines. Whether you’re just getting started on your wellness journey or looking for motivation to keep going, this conversation will remind you that it’s never too late to change your story—one step at a time.

Key Takeaways:

• Your mindset can make or break you.
• Being committed to living a healthier lifestyle may help you overcome genetic patterns.
• IMPORTANT NOTE: Be sure to consult with your doctor or healthcare professional before starting any diet, lifestyle change, or exercise routine.
• Strength training and diet are more important as we age.
• Community support (running group) or an accountability partner is the X factor in your success.
• Cortisol levels can significantly impact weight management.
• Diet and exercise go hand-in-hand for optimal health.
• Overcoming injuries requires patience and adaptability.
• A positive, can-do mindset is essential for achieving your fitness goals.
• You can start with baby steps but get moving and stay committed.
• Forget about perfection and think about Progress.
• You can be fit at any age—Never Give Up!

Resources:

-       Is There An Age When You Can Start Eating Whatever You Want?

-       6 Exercises That Can Help You Live Longer—No Gym Membership Required

-       Ida Keeling’s book Can't Nothing Bring Me Down

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Content Warning ⚠️: This episode contains an open and honest discussion of depression and suicide. It may be triggering for some. Please use discretion before listening. If you or someone you know is in crisis, call or text 988 in the U.S. to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline—available 24/7. 

In this inspiring and revealing episode of Light Up the Mic, Kembala speaks with renowned Zen student, teacher, and author Cheri Huber. Cheri shares her deeply personal story of moving from suffering to self-compassion, and how awareness can help us find true joy. Cheri shares her struggles with depression and the major turning point that led her to Zen.

This is a conversation about healing, hope, and finding happiness.

She also discusses her philanthropic work in Zambia, where she launched a feeding and education program that now serves over 1,000 children. 

Cheri’s message is clear and deeply empowering: There’s nothing wrong with you. Our healing begins when we stop believing the voices of self-hate and start choosing love. This conversation is a powerful reminder that transformation is possible—and that healing begins with unconditional love for ourselves.

Key Takeaways:

• Healing starts with believing in the goodness of who you truly are.
• How to handle the negative voice in your head that tears you down.
• Zen practice is about awakening into presence—and ending suffering.
• Movement is medicine - Exercise is crucial for mental health.
• The power of walking and nature to lift your spirits and heal.
• The origin story of Cheri's project in Zambia that nourishes 1,000+ children daily.
• Unconditional love and inner peace are powerful.
• Understanding our past helps us heal from trauma.
• Gratitude and giving can shift our focus in life.
• Community support is vital for mental health.

Resources:

• 📚 Cheri Huber's Books:
  1.  There’s Nothing Wrong With You
  2.  The Depression Book
• 🌐 Free Audiobooks and Africa Project:
  https://www.livingcompassion.org
• 🎧 Recording & Listening Practice:
  https://www.recordingandlistening.org
• 📞 Open Air Call-In Radio Show:
  Tuesdays at 5PM PT / 8PM ET
• Need Help? The 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline is for those in crisis or looking to help someone. Call or text 988. Outside U.S., click here .

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In this deeply enlightening episode, Kembala speaks with renowned Zen student, teacher, and author Cheri Huber. Cheri has over 45 years of experience with Zen. She is the author of 24 books, including There Is Nothing Wrong With You. 

They discuss the journey of self-acceptance, the layers that people build over time, and the transformative power of love and understanding in overcoming personal challenges. The conversation emphasizes the need for mindfulness, unconditional love, and being present in the moment, as well as the significance of recognizing one's true nature beneath societal conditioning.

From the impact of technology on real human relations to how love—not punishment—heals hurt, this episode invites listeners to rethink judgment, embrace self-compassion, and reconnect with the simple joys of nature, meditation, and childlike innocence. Cheri shares practical ways to find peace in a noisy world and offers resources for those struggling with anxiety and depression. 

Whether you're experienced with Zen or just curious about it, this episode is an invitation to pause, breathe, and explore it more.

Key Takeaways:

• Presence is the heart of Zen: being fully in the moment.
• Social conditioning creates layers that separate us from our true nature.
• Self-acceptance begins with understanding who we truly are.
• Love—not punishment—is what reaches and transforms people, especially children.
• True change starts with self-love; that’s not selfish, it’s essential.
• Nature, stillness, and volunteering are powerful antidotes to digital overload.
• Comparison is a thief of joy—your worth isn't measured by external validation.
• Meditation is challenging but worth it to reclaim your inner peace.

Resources:

• LivingCompassion.org – Free downloads of Cheri’s books and more.
• Some of Cheri’s Books:
  1. There’s Nothing Wrong With You: Going Beyond Self-Hate
  2. The Key: And The Name of The Key is Willingness
  3. Nothing Happens Next: Responses to Questions About Meditation
• The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen R. Covey
• The Millionaire Next Door: The Surprising Secrets of America's Wealthy by  Thomas J. Stanley and William D. Danko 

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Born with one leg, Carl Joseph never accepted limits. In this deeply inspiring episode of Light Up the Mic, host Kembala Evans speaks with Carl “Sugarfoot” Joseph—a Hall of Fame athlete. Carl Joseph's praying single mother raised him on a tobacco farm in Madison, Florida—without using the word “handicap.” Carl’s story is a powerful testament to faith, grit, and unwavering self-belief. 

With no prosthetic and no excuses, he excelled in sports earning eight varsity letters in football, basketball, and track—becoming a state legend and eventually inducted into the Florida High School Hall of Fame. 

He shares how faith, self-belief, and resilience fueled every step of his journey—from dominating high school sports to inspiring youth across the nation. Carl opens up about bullying, spiritual purpose, missed NFL dreams, and the life-changing impact of being seen not for what he lacked, but for who he truly is.

This is more than a sports story. It’s a testimony of what’s possible when you believe in yourself and trust in something greater.

Key Takeaways:

• Your mindset defines your potential. Carl never accepted the label “handicapped”—even when others tried to impose it.
• Faith and family are powerful foundations. His mother’s no-excuses love and spiritual leadership shaped his perseverance.
• Confidence isn't pride—it’s necessary. Carl emphasized the importance of self-belief in overcoming adversity.
• Purpose leaves a ripple effect. His presence transformed football culture in his hometown and has inspired countless youth.
• Stay true to your vision. Whether DJing in college or jumping fences as a kid, Carl followed his instincts and God-given path.
• Tune out the negativity and magnify your belief. He faced negativity in school but never let it define or limit him.
• It all starts within. Carl's story is a powerful reminder that anything is possible, but it starts with you.

Resources:

• That's Incredible Show - Carl Joseph (video)
• One-Legged Wonder Makes Hall of Fame (video)
• Carl's Books:
  1. One of a Kind: The Legend of Carl Joseph
  2. Some Called Me Superstar

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In this colorful episode, Kembala speaks with engineer and devoted father Roderick Langrin about fatherhood. Growing up with a single mother, Roderick was intentional in creating his own father blueprint. 

They discuss the origins of Father’s Day from Sonora Smart Dodd’s campaign in 1910 Spokane, WA to its national recognition in 1972. Roderick shares his idea of a perfect Father’s Day and his most treasured gifts—against a backdrop of the National Retail Federation’s projected $24 billion in Father’s Day spending (2025). 

Roderick shares invaluable, candid lessons on navigating fatherhood, prioritizing his children first, and his dedication to having lasting connections. 

What do dads want most? Kembala reveals the Top 5 things American dads want  for Father’s Day 2025 (YouGov survey).

Key Takeaways:

1. Presence Over Perfection: Observe positive father figures/role models, extract positive behaviors, and adapt them to your family.
2. Embrace Individuality: Each child is unique. Celebrate their strengths, address vulnerabilities, and tailor your approach to each.
3. Sentimental Gifts Mean More: Hand-drawn cards and photo books often outlast expensive gadgets. 
4. Quality Time is the #1 Gift: Show up—whether that’s being in the delivery room, attending a game, or simply turning off the radio and talking.
5. Balance Work and Family: Prioritize. Material comforts can’t replace memories of your presence.
6. Build a “Dad Brotherhood”: Father’s Day can foster camaraderie among dads—share experiences, encouragement, and mutual support.
7. Stay Connected to Your Kids: Create group text chats, learn their interests and communicate with them regularly to gain trust.

Resources:

• NRF Press Release “Father’s Day Spending to Reach Record $24 Billion” 
• History of Father’s Day
• YouGov Survey What American Dads Want for Father’s Day (2025)

👉 If you're a dad, have a dad, or want to be a dad—this one’s for you.

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Are you stressed? In this episode, Kembala shares some proven, practical and effective stress management techniques to help you find relief. She also discusses the state of Financial Stress in America today. And the negative impact it has on your mental health.

Just in time for #MentalHealthAwarenessMonth - This episode emphasizes the need for managing stress, having a positive outlook and actionable steps you may consider to help improve your mental well-being and financial health.

Kembala highlights five effective and practical tips for managing stress, including relaxation techniques, the power of your mindset, practicing gratitude, self-care strategies, and the importance of seeking help (if needed).

Key Takeaways

• Money is a leading cause of stress for many Americans.
• Over 80% of adults are stressed about money.
• Deep breathing, meditation and stretching can help reduce stress.
• Your mindset is crucial for managing both finances and life.
• Positive self-talk can take the limits off and lift you up.
• Gratitude journaling can help us reflect on the positive.
• Self-care includes physical activity and healthy eating too.
• Laughter can be a great stress reliever.
• Asking for help and finding the support you need to start feeling better.
• Focus on what you can control regarding finances.

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Resources:

• Fortune magazine article on Financial Stress
• Deep Breathing Exercises
• Stretching for Stress Relief
• Mayo Clinic on Meditation
• "Get Your Money Right" book by Kembala Evans
• Thinking Poem by Walter D. Wintle
• Hawkins Family Downsized article
• “How to Stop Worrying and Start Living” book by Dale Carnegie

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What do moms really want? In this candid and lively Mother’s Day episode, Kembala Evans sits down with her dear friend Mayra McEvoy for an honest, uplifting conversation about the joys and struggles of motherhood. They also unpack what moms really want—and it might surprise you.

From navigating multigenerational households and dreams, the two explore how family, faith, and self-reflection shape a mother’s journey. 

Mayra shares how understanding love languages, embracing change, and letting go have deepened her relationships. With humor, vulnerability, and wisdom, this episode reminds us that the best gifts aren’t bought—they’re felt.

Mayra discusses the challenges in balancing family, a successful business, and self. And how she learned to be still in a go-go world. If you’ve ever felt stretched thin, questioned if you’re doing enough, or just wanted someone to say “me too,” this episode is for you.

Key Takeaways:

• The surprising origins of Mother’s Day
• How understanding love languages deepens relationships
• Why presence often matters more than presents
• How relationships between mothers and children evolve
• Balancing motherhood and self-care
• Meaningful (and affordable) Mother’s Day ideas - procrastinators rejoice!
• Trusting God in life

👉 If you're a mom, have a mom, or miss your mom—this one’s for you.

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Resources:

• The Five Love Languages by Gary Chapman
• 2025 National Retail Federation’s Mother’s Day Press Release

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In this heartfelt episode, Kembala Evans takes to the streets and a college campus across Florida and Georgia to explore a timeless question: What is love? Through candid interviews with everyday people of all ages (20-85) and backgrounds, she uncovers the different ways love is defined, experienced, and how love has shaped their lives.

Kembala also reveals what Americans think about love from a recent YouGov survey. And other stats on what Americans think about true love and marriage. Some of this may surprise you, especially when it comes to relationships.

She closes sharing the powerful impact Dr. Leo Buscaglia (“Dr. Love”) had on teaching others about the power of love. 

Tune in and be inspired to reflect on what love means to you—and to choose love. 

Key Takeaways:

• The many faces of love: from romantic to platonic, from self-love to appreciation of nature, from unbelief to belief.
• Personal stories of long-term relationships, family bonds, strong faith, and the power of caring actions.
• Love is both a feeling and an action, shown through commitment, caring, and respect.
• Communication and mutual support are essential for lasting relationships.
• True love often starts with loving yourself—self-love enables us to love others fully.
• Love extends beyond romance into every aspect of life.
• Choosing love gives our lives more meaning.

A Special Thank You to the kind souls who agreed to talk about love in this episode. We appreciate your time, honesty, and sharing your thoughts with us!

Love Survey/Stats:

• What Americans Believe about Love (YouGov)
• Americans Who Believe in Love (Statista)

Dr. Leo Buscaglia 

• Living, Loving, & Learning book
• PBS KVIE “Speaking of Love” YouTube presentation

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“Light Up the Mic” listeners get answers to their burning money questions from nationally recognized personal finance expert Beverly Harzog. Kembala Evans and Beverly Harzog sit down and discuss the challenges many Americans have living paycheck to paycheck, side hustle ideas for more income, and the necessity of having an emergency fund. 

Beverly shares her insights on building a diverse retirement portfolio and the significance of shifting from a scarcity mindset to one of abundance. They both agree your mindset is very important in achieving your financial goals. So, changing the way you think could impact your finances and the way you see the world around you.

The conversation also touches on the current housing market, navigating the complexities of homeownership in today's economy and how to build residual income. Additionally, they talk about foreign currency considerations for travelers, and Beverly provides listeners with practical advice to save money when traveling abroad. 

And the significance of teaching children about financial literacy. Beverly shares the strategies she used to help her kids develop strong money management skills, including involving them in family budgeting and financial conversations. Stressing the importance of age-appropriate discussions about finances, especially during challenging times.

She also encourage listeners to seek professional advice for tax and financial planning (when needed).

Key Takeaways:

• Side hustles can provide additional income and savings.
• Living paycheck to paycheck is a common struggle for many Americans.
• An emergency fund is crucial for financial stability.
• Investing early, even with small amounts, is important for retirement.
• Diversifying income sources can lead to financial independence.
• Homeownership requires careful consideration of current market conditions.
• Mindset shifts from scarcity to abundance can open new opportunities.
• Do your research before traveling to avoid foreign transaction fees.
• Start teaching kids about money at a young age by counting real money.
• Involve children in family budgeting to help them understand financial decisions.
• Use shopping trips as opportunities to teach kids about costs and budgeting.
• Encourage kids to save for items they want to teach them about budgeting.
• Seek professional financial/legal advice to navigate tax laws and savings.

For more information on Beverly Harzog, please visit BeverlyHarzog.com

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