Lighter Darker: The ILM Podcast

Director Shannon Tindle (Kubo and the Two Strings, Lost Ollie) and VFX supervisor Hayden Jones join us to discuss the role of empathy in animation. We talk about Tindle’s latest film, Ultraman: Rising as well as the importance of collaboration and infusing personal experiences into characters and storytelling.

[00:00:00] Intro

[00:03:20] Rejection Letters

[00:11:25] Deleted Dreams

[00:17:46] Empathy in Animation

[00:45:52] The Martini

[00:50:33] Outro

Shannon - Hollow Kingdom #1 - Kira Jane Buxton

Hayden - Thames & Hudson USA - Book - Anime Architecture: Imagined Worlds and Endless Megacities

Jenny - Luigi's Mansion 2 - HD

Rob -  Welcome to Wrexham (TV Series 2022– ) - IMDb

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https://www.ilm.com/transcripts/ep-006-ultraman-rising-with-shannon-tindle-and-hayden-jones/

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For this special Halloween Edition, we flash back to Ghostbusters II with VFX legend Bill George who shares stories from the model shop. We talk with Bill about the evolution of visual effects over his 40-year career.

[00:00:00] Intro

[00:03:45] Questions from the mailbag

[00:16:20] Lighter Darker - origin of the name

[00:19:10] Rejection letters

[00:22:28] Ghostbusters II and the evolution of the artist toolbox

[00:44:51] The Martini

[00:52:19] Outro

Todd -Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982) - IMDb

Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992) - IMDb 

Bill - Sasquatch Sunset (2024) - IMDb Paramount + / rent on Amazon Prime

Jenny - Halloween: Origins, Meaning & Traditions | HISTORY

Jenny's Slimer Halloween Costume by Adam J. Ely on IG

Rob -  Scriptnotes

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Director Lee Isaac Chung (Minari, Twisters) and executive producer Ashley Jay Sandberg (Twisters, The Bee Gees: How Can You Mend a Broken Heart) discuss working together to balance science and storytelling with their latest film, Twisters. They share stories from the set, including real-life challenges from Mother Nature. The filmmakers and the Lighter Darker hosts chat about films that inspired them to choose their career paths and some roadblocks they faced along the way.

[00:00:00] Intro

[00:02:12] Questions from the mailbag

[00:10:42] Rejection letters

[00:19:44] Film foundations

[00:28:20] The quiet power of nature

[00:45:30] Final question

[00:48:24] The martini

[00:53:50] Outro

Rob - The Greatest Night in Pop (2024) - IMDb

Todd - Schlage Encode Plus™ Smart WiFi Deadbolt | Wifi smart lock

Jenny - Norsepaints (@norsepaints) • Instagram 

Isaac - StarTalk Radio

Ashley BEATER BOARDS – Catch Surf USA

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Transcript: https://www.ilm.com/transcripts/s1e004-twisters-with-lee-isaac-chung-and-ashley-jay-sandberg/

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Beth D'Amato, ILM digital paint supervisor, joins Todd and Rob to discuss their favorite camera moves, compositions, and notable oner’s. Beth shares how she got her start in VFX and we learn that sometimes, "We will keep your resume on file" is a good thing! The ILM pros answer questions about basic VFX terminology, and we bust an internet myth.

[00:00:00] Intro

[00:01:50] Questions from the mailbag

[00:11:07] Rejection letters

[00:16:20] Misinformation corner

[00:21:20] Camera and composition 

[00:43:19] The Martini

[00:49:32] Outro

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Transcript: https://www.ilm.com/transcripts/s1e3-camera-and-composition/

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In this episode, the Lighter Darker team welcomes director Josh Cooley (Toy Story 4, Transformers One) to talk about combining humor and heart in filmmaking as he does so well in his films. Josh shares the story of getting his dream shot at Pixar and how he almost had a very different job!

[00:00:00] Intro

[00:01:41] Questions from the mailbag

[00:04:46] What is virtual production?

[00:13:00] Rejection letters

[00:17:05] Humor and heart in animation

[00:33:15] The Martini

[00:39:21] Outro

Rob (and the rest of the internet) is obsessed with the Star Tours StarSpeeder Play Set

2005 Star Tours - Original - Disneyland Anaheim

Jenny scrambled to come up with something last minute because Rob stole her martini (see above). She is reading Wuthering Heights by Emily Brontë | Goodreads and obsessing over the Oxford comma debate. What Is the Oxford Comma (or Serial Comma)? | Grammarly. Yes, she is boring.

Josh is staying true to the current Transformers hype by adopting a Flagship Optimus Prime from Robosen.

The Lighter Darker theme was created by Khatsho Orfali. This episode features music by Ben Charles aka chromasy.

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https://www.ilm.com/transcripts/s1e2-transformers-one-with-josh-cooley/

https://www.ilm.com/lighterdarker/s1e2-transformers-one-with-josh-cooley/

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Welcome to Lighter Darker: The ILM Podcast hosted by ILM Chief Creative Officer, Rob Bredow, ILM Compositing Supervisor, Todd Vaziri, and Producer Jenny Ely who talk about the creative process of filmmaking and the art of visual storytelling.

In our premiere episode Rob and Todd share thoughts on beautiful final shots from films they've personally worked on, along with a few "could-be-better" or CBB moments they didn't want to let go. Todd unpacks the compositing from a famous shot in Star Trek Into Darkness and Rob shares how the production teams on the set of Solo: A Star Wars Story worked together to compose a memorable journey through the Kessel Run on screen for the first time.

On the main topic of Dailies Culture Rob and Todd dive into the details, offering up tips on making review sessions with your team more productive, painless, and even enjoyable.

Lighter Darker Episode 1: The Premiere

One Final & One CBB

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The Martini

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Welcome to Lighter Darker: The ILM Podcast where we focus on the creative process of filmmaking and the art of visual storytelling. Hosted by ILM Chief Creative Officer, Rob Bredow and Todd Vaziri, ILM Compositing Supervisor, we tell stories from behind the scenes to illustrate the many crafts that come together to create a motion picture, TV Series, or special venue project.

Whether you're a seasoned professional, an aspiring filmmaker, or a fan of immersive experiences, Lighter Darker provides valuable insights, inspiration, and a deeper appreciation for the artists behind the projects we take on at ILM in the visual effects, animation, and immersive entertainment spaces. Tune in to Lighter Darker and embark on a journey through the creative and technical realms of cinema & immersive entertainment, where every shadow reveals a story, and every beam of light unveils a new perspective.

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