Lighter Darker: The ILM Podcast

Lighter Darker: The ILM Podcast

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  • 020 - Lens Flares

    In the final episode of season one, Shannon Tindle and John Knoll return to Lighter Darker to discuss the much debated use of lens flares in film and animation. John talks about rejection and how to know when a project isn’t right for you. Our hosts and guests share some of their favorite lens flares and how to use the technique correctly (and incorrectly).

    Chapter Markers

    [00:00:00] Intro

    [00:02:42] Questions from the Mailbag

    [00:11:29] Rejection Letters

    [00:17:47] Lens Flare Extravaganza

    [00:53:39] The Martini

    [01:00:28] Outro


    Episode Links

    • John Knoll - IMDb
    • Shannon Tindle - IMDb
    • “Hook” (1991) Tinkerbell Lens Flares
    • “Visions of Light” documentary on cinematography, HD remaster
    • “Star Wars” (1977), timestamp 6:14
    • The Martini

      Todd: Hits, Flops, and Other Illusions, by Edward Zwick

      John: Portrait Artist of the Year

      Jenny: Batman Resurrection

      Shannon: 

      LA Taco

      Colorware

      Rob:

      1Password

      Apple Passwords


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      1 hr 4 min
    • 019 - Severance

      Production designer Jeremy Hindle and VFX supervisor Eric Leven join us to discuss their work on Severance season two. We discuss merging practical designs with the often invisible digital effects to create the atmosphere and environments of the Lumon world.

      Chapter Markers

      [00:00:11] Intro

      [00:01:55] Rejection Letters

      [00:06:52] Severance

      [00:52:52] The Martini

      [01:00:43] Outro

      Episode Links 

      • Jeremy Hindle - IMDb
      • Eric Leven - IMDb
      • Severance (TV Series 2022– ) - IMDb
      • The Martini

        Todd - Detroiters (TV Series 2017–2018) - IMDb
        The Studio (TV Series 2025– ) - IMDb


        Jenny - Andor (TV Series 2022–2025) - IMDb

        Eric - Swax Training Baseball

        Rob - The Severance Podcast with Ben Stiller & Adam Scott

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        Transcript 

        https://www.ilm.com/transcripts/019-severance/

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        1 hr 3 min
      • 018 - ABBA Voyage

        ILM creative director Ben Morris and producer Svana Gisla join us to discuss ABBA Voyage. We talk through details about the technology, collaboration with the band, and the legacy of this one-of-a-kind musical experience. 

        Chapter Markers

        [00:00:00] Intro

        [00:02:31] Origin Stories

        [00:08:57] ABBA Voyage

        [00:51:40] The Martini

        [00:58:39] Outro

        Episode Links

        • ABBA Voyage (Music Video 2022) - IMDb
        • Svana Gisla - IMDb
        • Ben Morris - IMDb
        • The Martini

          Todd - MacBook Air 13-inch and MacBook Air 15-inch - Apple

          Ben - Severance (TV Series 2022– ) - IMDb

          Jenny - Paul Tremblay

          Rob - Game Changer - Dropout

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          Transcript 

          https://www.ilm.com/transcripts/ep-18-abba-voyage/


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          1 hr
        • 017 - Fifty Years of ILM

          Recorded with a live audience at Star Wars Celebration in Japan, join our Industrial Light & Magic panel as we commemorate a monumental milestone—50 years of groundbreaking visual effects artistry, production mastery, and technological innovation. In this panel, hear from longtime ILM veterans as they take you on a journey through the company's legendary

          achievements.


          Chapter Markers

          [00:00:00] Intro

          [00:02:07] Starting at ILM

          [00:24:05] Blending Techniques

          [00:45:48] Future of VFX

          [00:47:41] The Martini

          [00:01:00] 0utro


          ILM 50th Swag
          • ILM 50th T-Shirt, Sweatshirt, Tumbler

          Episode Links 
          • Fon Davis - IMDb
          • Janet Lewin - IMDb
          • John Knoll - IMDb
          • Lynwen Brennan - IMDb
          • Masa Narita - IMDb
          • Rob Coleman - IMDb
          • 

            The Martini

            Lynwen - Light & Magic Season 2 and ILM Announces New Book at Star Wars Celebration Japan 

            Janet - ILM 50th Anniversary Merch

            Andor Season 2

            Rob Coleman - The Director's Cut - A DGA Podcast

            Rob Bredow - Tokyo DisneySea



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            Transcript

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            56 min
          • 016 - Bryce Dallas Howard

            Bryce Dallas Howard joins us to talk about her experiences and processes as an actor and filmmaker. She also shares her thoughts on recent exciting news from the world of science! You won’t want to miss this one!


            Chapter Markers

            [00:00:00] Intro

            [00:02:23] Questions from the Mailbag

            [00:20:35] Storytelling and Innovation in Filmmaking

            [00:41:02] Film Foundations

            [00:47:19] Storytelling and Innovation part 2

            [00:59:48] The Martini

            [01:09:26] Outro


            Episode Links 
            • Bryce Dallas Howard - IMDb 
            • The Mandalorian (TV Series 2019– ) - IMDb 
            • Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (2018) - IMDb 
            • The Brave Little Toaster (1987) - IMDb 
            • The Last Unicorn (1982) - IMDb 
            • Beth Shapiro, Ph.D. - Colossal 
            • The Return of the Dire Wolf - Colossal 

            • The Martini

              Jenny - Merriam-Webster (@merriamwebster) · Springfield, MA 

              Rob - beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO headphones 

              Bryce - Milan Art Institute


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              Transcript https://www.ilm.com/transcripts/016-bryce-dallas-howard/

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              1 hr 11 min
            • Episode 16 Coming April 9th

              We are delaying the release of Episode 16 by one day this week because we will be discussing an exciting topic from the world of science that won’t be publicly announced by our usual publishing time. We have a very special guest this week! Bryce Dallas Howard is joining us to talk about her experiences and processes as an actor and filmmaker. Check back tomorrow to download the episode, you won’t want to miss this one! 

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              1 min
            • 015 - Immersive Innovation with Vicki Dobbs Beck

              For over 30 years, Vicki Dobbs Beck has been at the forefront of innovative storytelling. This week, she shares her remarkable journey as a leader in this dynamic field, and reminisces about some of her favorite projects.


              Chapter Markers

              [00:00:00] Intro

              [00:02:11] Questions From the Mailbag

              [00:08:52] Rejection Letters

              [00:22:37] Immersive Innovation

              [00:55:58] The Martini

              [01:01:03] Outro


              Episode Links 
              • Vicki Dobbs Beck - IMDb
              • Montage Excerpt of “Paul Park Ranger & The Mystery of the Disappearing Ducks.” on Vimeo
              • CARNE y ARENA (Virtually present, Physically invisible) - Trailer
              • What If...? - An Immersive Story | Marvel
              • Immersive Entertainment | Industrial Light & Magic

              • The Martini

                Jenny - Soolla

                Vicki - Runway Research | Introducing Act-One

                Rob - FUJIFILM X100VI | Cameras | FUJIFILM X Series & GFX - USA


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                Transcript: https://www.ilm.com/transcripts/015-vicki-dobbs-beck/

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                1 hr 3 min
              • 014 - Skeleton Crew with John Knoll
                Chapter Markers

                [00:00:00] Intro

                [00:10:31] Skeleton Crew

                [00:44:09] Questions From the Mailbag

                [00:54:16] The Martini

                [01:02:29] Outro

                Episode Links 
                • John Knoll - IMDb
                • Skeleton Crew (TV Series 2024–2025) - IMDb
                • Colbert Issues 'Green Screen' Challenge to McCainiacs
                • Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003) - IMDb
                • Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (2006) - IMDb
                • Inside ILM: Creating the Razor Crest
                • The Mandalorian Season 1 - Motion Control System
                • The Mandalorian Season 1 - Motion Control System -2
                • The Mandalorian Season 2 - Motion Control System
                • Ahsoka/Skeleton Crew - Motion Control System
                • The Martini

                  Todd - Rear Window (1954) - IMDb Panic Room (2002) - IMDb

                  John - Tim's Vermeer (2013) - IMDb

                  Jenny - Father Brown - BBC One

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                  Transcript 

                  https://www.ilm.com/transcripts/014-skeleton-crew-with-john-knoll/

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                  1 hr 4 min
                • 013 - Virtual Production

                  This week, we’re exploring Virtual Production. Industry experts Shivani Jhaveri and Justin Talley share their insights on when this technology truly shines and, just as importantly, when it might not be the best fit for your project. They also offer tips and advice for working on set and share some of their favorite moments with filmmakers. 

                  Chapter Markers

                  [00:00:00] Intro

                  [00:02:12] Questions From the Mailbag

                  [00:16:42] Set Smarts

                  [00:27:23] Virtual Production

                  [00:57:04] The Martini

                  [01:05:22] Outro


                  Episode Links 
                  • Shivani Jhaveri - IMDb
                  • Justin Talley - IMDb
                  • ILM StageCraft
                  • The Agency (TV Series 2024– ) - IMDb
                  • Craft Services: Role and Responsibilities on a Film Set - 2025 - MasterClass
                  • Robust Steel Max - Vyper Chairs
                  • Skeleton/IFB Earpiece - EAR Customized Hearing Protection

                  • The Martini

                    Todd - Movies & TV | Plex

                    Shivani - Meditations by Marcus Aurelius

                    Jenny - The Roots of Chaos — Samantha Shannon

                    Justin - Artemis Pro - Pro Filmmaker Apps

                    Rob - Letterboxd


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                    Transcript https://www.ilm.com/transcripts/013-virtual-production-with-shivani-jhaveri-justin-talley/

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                    1 hr 7 min
                  • 012 - Wicked & Alien: Romulus

                    This week, we discuss the work behind two films nominated for Oscars in Best Visual Effects. From the whimsical world of Wicked and the acidic atmosphere of Alien: Romulus—Pablo Helman, David Shirk, and Nelson Sepulveda-Fauser share their insights and learnings in crafting the visual effects behind these blockbuster hits.

                    Chapter Markers

                    [00:00:00] Intro

                    [00:02:45] Questions From the Mailbag

                    [00:10:36] Alien: Romulus

                    [00:23:29] Wicked

                    [00:51:47] The Martini

                    [01:02:00] Outro

                    Episode Links 
                    • Nelson Sepulveda - IMDb
                    • Pablo Helman - IMDb
                    • David Shirk - IMDb
                    • GET IN THE DOOR
                    • Alien: Romulus (2024) - IMDb
                    • Wicked (2024) - IMDb
                    • The 97th Academy Awards | 2025
                    • The Martini

                      Todd - The Straight Story (1999) - IMDb

                      Jenny - Movies | DC Comics | DC

                      Pablo - Pablo Helman Soundcloud McCartney's 4001 | TalkBass.com

                      David - Liberty Puzzles

                      Rob - The Classic Presets - Classic Film Presets 2021 for Lightroom



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                      1 hr 4 min

                    About Lighter Darker: The ILM Podcast

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                    Welcome to Lighter Darker: The ILM Podcast, where we focus on the creative process of filmmaking and the art of visual storytelling. Co-hosted by Rob Bredow & Todd Vaziri, and produced by…