( listen to full interview goto Patreon.com/michaeldecon ) On today's episode of the Michael Decon program, Michael is joined by Joe Rupe of the Lighting the Void podcast. The two hosts have not spoken since Michael left the Fringe FM network back in 2016.

During their catch-up, they discuss their respective shows and the joys and challenges that come with pursuing their passions. 

The conversation takes a turn towards fringe topics, including Michael's favorite theories on how the earth will end and the practice of astral projection. Tune in for an engaging discussion on the world of fringe topics and the pursuit of passion in podcasting.