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In this heartfelt episode of the LINC Talks Podcast, host Bobby Bogard sits down with longtime friends and ministry veterans Hal and Pam Santos. Together, they unpack nearly four decades of pastoral leadership, marriage in ministry, and the courage it takes to transition well.
From their humble beginnings in small-town Louisiana and Cleveland, to pastoring Grace Church in Illinois for 38 years, Hal and Pam share a transparent, wisdom-filled look at calling, identity, leadership growth, and the challenges (and joys!) of handing the baton to the next generation. Their insights on church DNA, pastoral transition, and post-pastoring purpose offer valuable encouragement for seasoned leaders navigating their own seasons of change.
Now serving as mentors and encouragers to pastors and ministry couples, the Santos' story is a powerful testimony that in God’s economy, nothing is wasted—and the best may still be ahead.
If you or your spouse are looking for a seasoned couple in ministry to walk alongside you please connect with Pastors Hal and Pam at:
email: [email protected]
Ministry Details
www.Minister2Minister.com
In this episode of LINC Talks Podcast, host Bobby Bogard welcomes Pastors Greg Molchan from Grand Rapids Dream Center, Grand Rapids, MI, Jeremy Lousion from Pioneer Church, Memphis, TN and Javier Mendoza Hills Global Church/Connect Global Ministries, Zephyrhills, FL for a dynamic conversation on what it means to lead in unique, often nontraditional ministry environments. From the multicultural, unique spaces, to worship and creative leadership, these Pastors unpack how calling and character shape effective ministry.
Together, they explore how leadership isn’t always linear, why comparison is a trap, and how to faithfully steward influence—whether you're building a church, launching a worship movement, or mentoring the next generation. The conversation dives into the tension of visibility versus impact, how to show up in unseen spaces, and the importance of being a whole, healthy leader beyond the platform.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating leadership outside the box—or wondering how God might use their gifts in unexpected places.
In this powerful episode of the Linc Talks Podcast, Muta and Christine Mwenya sit down with Pastor Bobby and Rose Bogard to explore the “Four F-Words” that every leader inevitably faces: Failure, Fatigue, Fear, and Fraud. With decades of ministry, marriage, and leadership experience, the Bogards share honest stories and hard-earned wisdom on how these challenges show up in both personal and professional life—and how to navigate them with faith, resilience, and grace.
From the pressures of early ministry to seasons of burnout and identity struggles, Bobby and Rose offer a transparent look at the moments that shaped their leadership. They unpack how fear and failure often intertwine, how unchecked fatigue can quietly erode relationships, and how spiritual fraud—believing lies about ourselves or others—can rob us of our God-given identity.
What emerges is a compelling conversation about perseverance, self-awareness, and the power of truth. Whether you’re a young leader just starting out or a seasoned one facing a new season, this episode is filled with encouragement, practical insight, and the reminder that your worth is not defined by your mistakes but by your identity in Christ.
Don’t miss this authentic and hope-filled dialogue—and be sure to share it with someone who needs the reminder that they’re not alone in the fight.
In this episode, LINC welcomes Darren Powell, lead pastor at Maranatha Fellowship Church, to discuss the challenges and pains associated with ministry. Darren shares his personal struggle during a low point in his pastoral career, marked by multiple setbacks including church splits and personal doubts about his capabilities. Through a candid conversation, Darren explains how he overcame these challenges by focusing on his initial call to ministry, seeking encouragement, and shifting his mindset. He emphasizes the importance of transparency, both within himself and with his congregation, which ultimately led to a healthier church culture and renewed growth. The discussion concludes with encouragement for pastors to avoid comparisons, embrace their uniqueness, and seek divine guidance to sustain positive change and growth within their ministries.
This LINC Talks podcast episode features a riveting conversation with Pastor Jason Laird from Citizens Church in Franklin, Tennessee, about his journey in ministry and life. Jason shared personal insights into his healing journey and the importance of addressing past issues before they surface unexpectedly, as evidenced by his father's challenges with unresolved pain leading to his family's turmoil. He emphasized the role of counseling and mentorship in the healing process, confessing how his own projections of need onto spiritual leaders and communities revealed deeper issues rooted in his past. Alongside Pastor Bobby Bogard, they discussed how leaders are often on the same journey as those they guide, highlighting the balance between personal accountability and divine intervention. Laird also recounted miraculous moments that underscored the Holy Spirit's power in instigating sudden and transformative healing, reminding listeners of the profound impact such experiences can have in one's life and ministry.
In this episode of LINC Talks, we sit down with Bryan and Alyssa Lowe from Home Church in Warsaw, Indiana, to explore how they’re reshaping what it means to live out church beyond Sunday. Bryan, who grew up loving church, shares how he and Alyssa are committed to making faith a daily, at-home experience. Alyssa opens up about her journey to Jesus and how her heart for people led her to the church—and eventually to Bryan.
Together, they unpack the vision behind Home Church: creating rhythms of worship and community that begin at home. From take-home devotionals and communion kits to backyard Bible schools and men’s gatherings around the table, they’re helping families reclaim their homes as places of ministry. This episode highlights how they’re equipping people to lead, disciple, and connect with others in real and meaningful ways—right where they live.
In this episode, our discussion emphasizes that hospitality begins at home, with the importance of demonstrating love and care towards each other before extending it outwardly. The discussion features Javier and Danielle Mendoza, founders of Connect Global, and Lead Pastors of Hills Global Church, who share how they've utilized hospitality as a pathway to ministry both internationally and nationally.. They highlight their intentional approach to hosting, focusing on genuine connections without any agenda other than getting to know people. Hospitality is described as more than just providing meals; it's about creating a welcoming space where others can feel safe, share their stories, and potentially be introduced to Jesus Christ. The podcast encourages listeners to practice simple evangelism through hospitality, focusing on building relational equity and being vulnerable to effectively connect with others.
At LINC Talks Podcast, our theme of this episode is “Building a Legacy Together.” We believe God has given each of us unique gifts and talents to help expand His Kingdom, and we're passionate about creating space for those stories to be told.
In this special live session we filmed at our LINC Conference, we’re honored to welcome some of the City Church team.
Doug Bergsma, lead pastor of City Church, shares his journey, including the legacy of his father and the founding of Maranatha Ministries—an effort that ultimately led to the planting of several churches throughout rural Michigan.
Pastor Doug is joined by several of his Lead Pastors for this episode along with host Pastor Bobby Bogard.
City Church is a multi site congregation with a team passionate about reaching their community. This episode the teams share their focus on, presence driven environments, developing young leaders, relational evangelism and meaningful local partnerships. Their commitment to ongoing training of the next generation is a powerful reminder of how vibrant, Spirit-led communities are built. They are reaching people where they are with hope and purpose.
In this episode, we sit down with Matt and Julie Beemer—longtime friends of LINC and Founders of Club 1040, a missions organization with a deep heart for global outreach. The Beemers share their inspiring journey, beginning with their early days of ministry when resources were scarce but their faith was strong. They reflect on the power of serving under others’ visions as a way to build trust with God for greater responsibilities. Matt and Julie emphasize the importance of training and equipping Indigenous leaders and children—especially in culturally complex and high-risk areas—to create lasting, sustainable impact. In this episode, we also dive into the mission of Club 1040, which focuses on reaching the 1040 Window by mobilizing missionaries, training local leaders, and encouraging churches to actively support global missions. We hope this episode inspires you to adopt a mission-minded lifestyle, embrace cultural diversity, and engage in outreach—both locally and globally—with prayer as a foundational tool.
In this episode, Pastor Dar Blanchard shares his journey from being a successful businessman to feeling called into ministry while balancing both roles. He discusses the challenges and unexpected pains in ministry, such as dealing with personal and family health issues, as well as experiencing a period of depression and the fear of financial insecurity. Throughout, Pastor Dar emphasizes the importance of maintaining faith and not succumbing to fear, understanding that any disappointment in God stems from deception. He advocates for a process-oriented approach to transitions in leadership, both in ministry and business, highlighting that God can provide wisdom for smooth transitions without fear. The conversation concludes with encouragement to live a life of faith, trusting God to lead through all life's seasons.
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