Political strategist and Lincoln Project cofounder Reed Galen joins Denver Riggleman to discuss their long and storied careers in the Republican party, before later becoming pariahs of the MAGA cult - who often dismiss them as being “RINOs.” Reed tells the story of being in Florida during the recount of the 2000 Bush/Gore election and believing with his whole heart that nothing would ever again be as weird or strange as that experience. This is all after Denver brings up a robust discussion about the conflating of Donald Trump’s criminal convictions to Hunter Biden’s.

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