Steven speaks with Lisa Allen, co-author (together with Deborah Yates) of The little book of data: First steps to your data transformation. The book is full of practical tips and best practices for anyone working with data. The list of lessons draws upon Lisa's many years of experience in various high-profile data roles including Head of Data Management at Defra (UK Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs), Head of Data at the UK's Ordnance Survey, and now at the ODI (the Open Data Institute). A useful resource for anyone looking to raise their data game,

After discussing the book and Lisa's background, the conversation moves to "Data as Infrastructure" and the part data plays in the wider data ecosystem, and how we responsibly share that data. Steven tries, but fails, to avoid ranting about the data rights around the UK postcode system.

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