In this episode of extremely, Oren Segal speaks with Lisa Kaplan, founder of the Alethea Group, which detects and mitigates disinformation and social media manipulation. Lisa explains the difference between disinformation and misinformation and highlights strategies to reduce the consequences of disinformation campaigns, which she says are "fast, cheap and easy to do."

Beyond her love of dogs – repeat, Lisa loves dogs – she describes herself as an “eternal optimist when it comes to these sorts of issues.” She notes that “democracies have generally faced ​worse, and we can get around this one too” by promoting good information and education to create a more digitally savvy population.

More on Lisa’s work: https://nationalsecurity.gmu.edu/lisa-kaplan-in-the-news/

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