Architects are often "solutionists," but listening is a skill that has to be learned and practiced. Kira talks with Laura Lesniewski and Sam DeYoung of BNIM about the Asilong Christian High School in Kenya. Their work there began with water wells and grew into a campus and a relationship that has lasted more than a decade. They discuss: place knowing before place making; learning from traditional building forms; why presence matters; and how this approach changes their design work back home.