Izabella Villanos and Caili met in the running club during their freshman year of college. Izzy and Caili talk about the impact their grandmas have made so far in their lives. They both share their fun memories, traditions, and some of the things they admire most about their grandmas. Izzy and Caili also share how precious time is and how important it is to fully embrace both the joys and the sorrows of the reality of life.

Trish Borgdorff and Caili have been friends for 18 years. Trish shares her journey of losing her brother in 2012 and then losing her dad in 2018. She shares an imagery of how grief is like a “River of Sorrow”, seeing the gift of people along her path, how grief tenderized her heart, and how complex our human hearts are for all that we feel. Trish shares how losing someone is just one form of grieving and that there are so many different forms of grief we experience as people.

“If we can be a grieving people, we can be a kinder people. We all have our grieving stories. If we can share them we can carry them together.” -Trish 

Morgan Hoekman and Caili have known each other since middle school. Both Morgan and Caili share their experience of what it was like to go to a private high school, what they loved and didn’t love about it, and how they felt towards their peers and teachers. They share what they have learned going from private school to public colleges, and how leaving the “bubble” has grown their hearts in loving people with more compassion.

Sophia Koon, Caili’s friend from Michigan, tells her experience of what it’s like to be an only child in her family and how that has shaped her to who she is now in college. Sophia and Caili both talk about the pros and cons of being an only child, sharing stereotypes people have, and how their own experiences of loneliness has strengthen them to value the importance of friendships and the hope they have for their future families.

The "Listening with Love" podcast, hosted by Caili Sall. A 5’ 2 ¾” Chinese 22 year old trying to find herself in this world. Loves running, snowboarding, eating spicy noodles, and most of all having deep conversations with people. Join her every other Tuesday as she invites a different guest into topics ranging from personal stories, friendships, relationships, religion, spirituality, and so much more. Season one premieres on August 20th!