Mark Dean Veca joins me for a chat via skype form his studio in Southern California. We talk Drawing, Early Positive Reinforcement, Linesmanship, Holy Grail Search, Installation, Overwhelming Oneself, Wall Paintings, Working Class, Sneaking in The Back Door, Kent Twitchell, Murals, Stream of Consciousness, Puma Urban Art, Frank Kozik, LA Municipal Gallery, and Public Art