Fred Caron Jason Botkin Kirsten McCrea and Kevin Ledo have a chat at their hotel in Downtown San Diego. We talk En Masse, SD Art Fair, Particle Physics, Life of the Experiment, Collaborative Drawings, Stream of Consciousnous, Natural Growth, Human Ability, New Platforms, Graffiti, Who you give a hammer to, Gaps between collectors and creators, Art as Business, and Selling Communication